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  • Porter's Dad
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    #21
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    A leech? Come on, brother. He was with HBO for 10-20yrs. He moved on to better opportunities. If you stayed with the same company for that long and then moved on, would you consider them a leech?
    Everyone is allowed to move to onto better things. But it's the manner of how it has happened, and what happens to these en****** when he leaves, that leaves a bad taste.

    When he left HBO (or rather, HBO cut ties upon realising he was giving all his best fights to Showtime and give them filler instead) they were in dire straights. Those were the Berto BAD years. HBO are still recovering. It wasn't all Haymon's fault but he played a big part in HBO's running for a while before he made his move.

    He goes to Showtime - who let's be real, were doing stellar work before he took control there and often made HBO look foolish in comparison - the Super Six, Vasquez-Marquez trilogy etc - they were doing lots of tremendous fights. They were the channel of the hardcore fans.

    After an initial run of great GBP/Haymon fights, it devolved into the farce that was boxing in 2014. He is now spreading out to other channels, meaning Showtime are getting ditched - but were a convenient place holder while he set up these deals, and he could get his fighters paid for a a year/18 months. So basically Showtime are now going to lose Mayweather and all the other Haymon fighters - so what do they have to show for their heavy outlay? Even a Mayweather-Pac fight will be split with HBO - and most of the profits will be fought over by Floyd/Pac/Arum/Haymon.

    Where do Showtime go from here?

    Same way as Oscar, I guess - to clean house and start afresh. And GBP were the other company to get screwed by Haymon. I mean, reading this article was kinda sad. GBP have basically have to become a new company again, except this time, Oscar doesn't have dates and pull with HBO that he once did.

    HBO-GBP-SHO - Haymon passed through them all to get to where he is now. You can say he is a genius for it but all those companies have/will be left damaged by being affiliated with him.

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    • Fetta
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      #22
      Promotional companies are going to become just that...promotion company. Fighters are gonna stay independent

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      • KillerJones
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        #23
        Originally posted by jjsmyth87
        The funny thing is the only reason arum has a bad reputation on this website is because Floyd mayweather said he doesn't like arum. Everyone who fights for him seems to really like fighting for him, besides the occasional fighter any business would have. Top rank has always been the top company and they never robbed from fighters unlike don king. The. All of a sudden a top rank fighter gets his own promotional company golden boy and is in direct competition. Then mayweather leaves top rank to go to golden boy and the rest is history. Arum never screwed anyone and always has made the biggest and best fights, he only has a bad reputation amongst you duckweather fans, but in the rest of the boxing world they are highly respected and probably the premiere promoters in boxing.
        Yea, and Mayweather is the worst in the promo game. Floyd, that dumbass makes his own fighters fight for 30 min rounds while he bets on the games. And we are meant to dislike Arum?

        Or what about Floyd starting a promo company with 50, making him sign fighters, and then backing out at the last second? Floyd is a cancerous beast. He is a demon, who would be stealing, raping, and murdering if he didn't luck out.

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        • LADIV
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          #24
          Originally posted by jjsmyth87
          The funny thing is the only reason arum has a bad reputation on this website is because Floyd mayweather said he doesn't like arum. Everyone who fights for him seems to really like fighting for him, besides the occasional fighter any business would have. Top rank has always been the top company and they never robbed from fighters unlike don king. The. All of a sudden a top rank fighter gets his own promotional company golden boy and is in direct competition. Then mayweather leaves top rank to go to golden boy and the rest is history. Arum never screwed anyone and always has made the biggest and best fights, he only has a bad reputation amongst you duckweather fans, but in the rest of the boxing world they are highly respected and probably the premiere promoters in boxing.
          Top rank never screwed and robbed anybody ??? Oh really is that why mickey garcia and chavez jr want out of their contracts.....they keep robbing pacquiao blind but he is too ****** to speak up .....and don't give me the bull**** story that pacquiao makes 20 plus million a fight.cause only you and checkhooks and the rest of pac kok riders believe that nonsence

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          • MC Hammer
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            #25
            Originally posted by Guerrero's Dad
            Everyone is allowed to move to onto better things. But it's the manner of how it has happened, and what happens to these en****** when he leaves, that leaves a bad taste.

            When he left HBO (or rather, HBO cut ties upon realising he was giving all his best fights to Showtime and give them filler instead) they were in dire straights. Those were the Berto BAD years. HBO are still recovering. It wasn't all Haymon's fault but he played a big part in HBO's running for a while before he made his move.

            He goes to Showtime - who let's be real, were doing stellar work before he took control there and often made HBO look foolish in comparison - the Super Six, Vasquez-Marquez trilogy etc - they were doing lots of tremendous fights. They were the channel of the hardcore fans.

            After an initial run of great GBP/Haymon fights, it devolved into the farce that was boxing in 2014. He is now spreading out to other channels, meaning Showtime are getting ditched - but were a convenient place holder while he set up these deals, and he could get his fighters paid for a a year/18 months. So basically Showtime are now going to lose Mayweather and all the other Haymon fighters - so what do they have to show for their heavy outlay? Even a Mayweather-Pac fight will be split with HBO - and most of the profits will be fought over by Floyd/Pac/Arum/Haymon.

            Where do Showtime go from here?

            Same way as Oscar, I guess - to clean house and start afresh. And GBP were the other company to get screwed by Haymon. I mean, reading this article was kinda sad. GBP have basically have to become a new company again, except this time, Oscar doesn't have dates and pull with HBO that he once did.

            HBO-GBP-SHO - Haymon passed through them all to get to where he is now. You can say he is a genius for it but all those companies have/will be left damaged by being affiliated with him.

            SHO will still get fights Haymon has over 200 fighters. There were not enough dates to showcase all the talent.

            The way I see it, NBC will show a lot of great fighters, but fights that used to be PPV worthy like Danny vs Broner will go to Showtime, and huge fights like Pac/Mayweather will be PPV. It will be like the olden days.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #26
              Originally posted by Guerrero's Dad
              Everyone is allowed to move to onto better things. But it's the manner of how it has happened, and what happens to these en****** when he leaves, that leaves a bad taste.

              When he left HBO (or rather, HBO cut ties upon realising he was giving all his best fights to Showtime and give them filler instead) they were in dire straights. Those were the Berto BAD years. HBO are still recovering. It wasn't all Haymon's fault but he played a big part in HBO's running for a while before he made his move.

              He goes to Showtime - who let's be real, were doing stellar work before he took control there and often made HBO look foolish in comparison - the Super Six, Vasquez-Marquez trilogy etc - they were doing lots of tremendous fights. They were the channel of the hardcore fans.

              After an initial run of great GBP/Haymon fights, it devolved into the farce that was boxing in 2014. He is now spreading out to other channels, meaning Showtime are getting ditched - but were a convenient place holder while he set up these deals, and he could get his fighters paid for a a year/18 months. So basically Showtime are now going to lose Mayweather and all the other Haymon fighters - so what do they have to show for their heavy outlay? Even a Mayweather-Pac fight will be split with HBO - and most of the profits will be fought over by Floyd/Pac/Arum/Haymon.

              Where do Showtime go from here?

              Same way as Oscar, I guess - to clean house and start afresh. And GBP were the other company to get screwed by Haymon. I mean, reading this article was kinda sad. GBP have basically have to become a new company again, except this time, Oscar doesn't have dates and pull with HBO that he once did.

              HBO-GBP-SHO - Haymon passed through them all to get to where he is now. You can say he is a genius for it but all those companies have/will be left damaged by being affiliated with him.
              Guys like Berto...and guys like Paul Williams. And he also made them lots of money with guys like Mayweather. It all evens out. He gave them 10-20 years so really, HBO can't complain.

              As far as Showtime, it's not like he's stopped doing business with them. He practically revived their sports programming. They got the highest grossing fight in boxing history already and are on the verge of breaking that with Mayweather-Pacquiao. Plus, they'll be showing fights on CBS Sports and all of those boxers on NBC are contracted to fight on Showtime this year as well. Screwing? Not in the slightest.

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              • jbpanama
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                #27
                Originally posted by Fetta
                Promotional companies are going to become just that...promotion company. Fighters are gonna stay independent
                Hey Cheese Man,
                Whose going to Prop the Up and Comers Up, while they make their Bones???

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                • War Dinamita
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Fetta
                  Promotional companies are going to become just that...promotion company. Fighters are gonna stay independent
                  Who said? You need a strong following and hardcore fan base to be independent like Floyd and Cotto.

                  Do you really think his fighters can sell?

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                  • Canvas
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                    #29
                    There is no doubt that Schaefer and Haymon were conspiring to loot Oscar's company, with the help of their installed stooge Espinoza. Oscar was paying Schaefer millions in salary throughout all this.

                    Thankfully Oscar cleaned himself up and stopped them.

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                    • War Dinamita
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                      #30
                      All the fights that are being talked about for his shows were being proposed by GBP and he refused to put those fights together.

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