Another BS judging by the HBO crew

[GunStar]

Toney WAS tired, he fought most of the fight tired.
Why do you think he threw all those home run shots?
Why do you think he was so easily pushed off balance,
hell he stumbled around the ring almost repeatedly any time he had to fight in the center of the ring. He lost that fight bigger
than ****, Rahman carried the fight from start to finish, worked for 12 rounds, and should have been the winner. I don't think he's the better fighter, but he fought a better fight, he fought like he wanted to win. Do you really think Toney would beat Wlad the way he fought tonight?

Toney came out of shape, but both men were tired, it wasn't just Toney. Fact is they both landed around the same amount of punches. Fact is Toney landed the better cleaner punches. Fact is he was making Rahman missing most of his punches. Fact is it was a close fight. Fact is Toney should've won, because the better punches were landed by Toney. He was more in control of the fight.

Yes If Toney comes in this shape, he will have a similar fight against the rest of the guys, but if comes in the shape he fought Holyfield he will beat everyone in the HW division.

[Kid Achilles]

Somehow, by laying back on the ropes and countering occasionally Toney was "controlling the fight"? LOL. Unbelievable stuff on this forum tonight. Rahman won that one by a comfortable margin. Accuracy and precision counts but not enough to negate Rahman's dictating the pace of the fight. Let's put it this way, Rahman imposed his will on Toney more than Toney did to Rahman. Case closed.

****ty decision, and another night of bad luck for Rahman. Seem the guy just can't get a break. Still, he was nothing but class with his post fight comments in the odds of such bull****.

[Run]

Somehow, by laying back on the ropes and countering occasionally Toney was "controlling the fight"? LOL. Unbelievable stuff on this forum tonight.

Like I've stated that's a 10-6 round for Toney when he does that.



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[GunStar]

Somehow, by laying back on the ropes and countering occasionally Toney was "controlling the fight"? LOL. Unbelievable stuff on this forum tonight. Rahman won that one by a comfortable margin. Accuracy and precision counts but not enough to negate Rahman's dictating the pace of the fight. Let's put it this way, Rahman imposed his will on Toney more than Toney did to Rahman. Case closed.

****ty decision, and another night of bad luck for Rahman. Seem the guy just can't get a break. Still, he was nothing but class with his post fight comments in the odds of such bull****.

I just looked at your sig & that says it all I'm not even going to respond.

[Kid Achilles]

I just looked at your sig & that says it all I'm not even going to respond.

Translation: I've been whipped like a dog so I'm gonna make off topic comments.

[Easy-E]

I don't know what's with these guys, but these HBO guys can never judge a fight. I thought it was a close fight & I had Toney winning by 2 points. He was in control of the fight, he was making Rahman mess, he countered Rahman so many times in this fight. he landed the better punches.

Again what Freddie Roach told Toney in the last round, is that you need this round, he didn't tell Toney you're losing. Another BS from Larry Merchant with his crappy ears.

Toney was out of shape & he should've come in better shape, but he still won the fight in my opinion.

but then again, youve been all over toney's nuts all week...james toney beats ali LOL...gimme a break

[fluent2332]

Somehow, by laying back on the ropes and countering occasionally Toney was "controlling the fight"? LOL. Unbelievable stuff on this forum tonight. Rahman won that one by a comfortable margin. Accuracy and precision counts but not enough to negate Rahman's dictating the pace of the fight. Let's put it this way, Rahman imposed his will on Toney more than Toney did to Rahman. Case closed.

yeah, care to explain how Rahman just "imposed his will" on Toney, when he was fighting on the inside which is where Toney wanted him, and Toney was landing the cleaner shots and counterpunching? Jabbing all night and throwing more punches isn't "imposing your will" on someone. Neither is playing into the hands of the the other fighter. It's just throwing more punches, none of which were hard punches btw. Toney's shots were clearly cleaner and more effective

Its funny that Rahman managed to fool so many people into thinking he somehow manhandled Toney, just because he threw alot more punches and looked busy. In the end they landed about the same amount and Toneys were the more effective and cleaner punches. He landed a much better percentage too

[hollister]

Toney came out of shape, but both men were tired, it wasn't just Toney. Fact is they both landed around the same amount of punches. Fact is Toney landed the better cleaner punches. Fact is he was making Rahman missing most of his punches. Fact is it was a close fight. Fact is Toney should've won, because the better punches were landed by Toney. He was more in control of the fight.

Yes If Toney comes in this shape, he will have a similar fight against the rest of the guys, but if comes in the shape he fought Holyfield he will beat everyone in the HW division.

By the end of the fight both men were very tired I agree, but Toney was breathing heavily through his mouth by the end of the second round, and wasn't even coming close to keeping the pace that Rahman was. I wouldn't define what he did tonight as controlling the fight, he never forced Rahman to do anything he didn't want to, and Toney was hit tonight as much if not more than I've ever seen him hit at heavy. In fact, Toney's eye is the one that was swollen at the end of the fight. It wasn't swollen much, but it was noticeable and at least it was from punches and not a headbutt. Toney did land the cleaner shots, but he didn't land enough of them to offset Rahman's overall workrate IMO. I actually predicted that Toney would make rahman look foolish and maybe even stop him late, but I overestimated Toney's power and thought he would be in better shape than he was. Story of Toney's life I guess.

[GunStar]

but then again, youve been all over toney's nuts all week...james toney beats ali LOL...gimme a break

Sorry your the last person should talk, I rarely talk about Toney, your the one that love Roids nut & lets not forget about your idiotic post about SRR & SRL. You also mention Toney in every Roid thread.

I clearly said id Ali boxes he wins, what you can understand.

[GunStar]

yeah, care to explain how Rahman just "imposed his will" on Toney, when he was fighting on the inside which is where Toney wanted him, and Toney was landing the cleaner shots and counterpunching? Jabbing all night and throwing more punches isn't "imposing your will" on someone. Neither is playing into the hands of the the other fighter. It's just throwing more punches, none of which were hard punches btw. Toney's shots were clearly cleaner and more effective

Its funny that Rahman managed to fool so many people into thinking he somehow manhandled Toney, just because he threw alot more punches and looked busy. In the end they landed about the same amount and Toneys were the more effective and cleaner punches. He landed a much better percentage too

Good post! Lets not forget what ever the HBO crew says the fans will follow & that's just the fact.