In your personal opinion,is Deontay Wilder a legit champion

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  • TOBYLEE1
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    #21
    Belts to count as much any more. He is one of the top guys at HW but Wlad is the champ

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    • jas
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      #22
      Of course he is

      The belt was vacated by a fighter who agreed with the other champ that they would not fight each other

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        #23
        In boxing there are 4 world champions per division (5 if there is a WBA super and regular champion). Deontay Wilder is a world champion.

        He is not the lineal champion or the best fighter in the division though.

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          #24
          Originally posted by 80sFighter
          Those are three different questions you're mixing together:

          1. Who is widely recognized as the best in the division?
          2. Do you care about lineal status?
          3. Is everyone with a belt a champion?

          There are debates about who is the best between Floyd/Manny and Kovalev/Stevenson and both pairs need to fight to settle it, since they all have decent claims.

          Barely anyone seriously thinks Cotto is the top guy or "champion" at MW, lineal belt or not.

          Brook is clearly not the top guy at 147, title or not.
          The op asked if wilder is a legit champion. If you say wilders not then neither is ggg or Kov canelo ect

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            #25
            I'm no Wilder fan but yes, he's a legit world champion. He took the belt off Stiverne fair and square. Is he the best HW in the world though? Of course not.


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            • Haterfree
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              #26
              Originally posted by HanzGruber
              So kovalev and golovkin aren't champs either
              No they are not. They are both Title holders just like Wilder. Adonis is the ring magazine recognized & lineal champ @ 175. Cotto is the lineal champ at 160 who beat the real MW champ to earn his championship (we don't even want to compare Cottos overall resume with Golovkin). It doesn't matter what someones opinion is on a message board. Those are the facts.

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              • Canvas
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                #27
                These belts are meaningless. Being "unified" is meaningless. There can be only one champ of the world. TBRB lineal championship is all that matters.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by HanzGruber
                  The op asked if wilder is a legit champion. If you say wilders not then neither is ggg or Kov canelo ect
                  Not sure what you mean. Golovkin is almost universally recognized as the best middleweight. Cotto has the "lineal" title, but it appears to be a one-off catchweight outing.

                  Kovalev and Stevenson need to fight to determine the best light heavyweight, similar to Floyd and Manny at 147.

                  Wilder is just some guy who wound up with a belt. He's done very little in his division. His situation isn't comparable. He's not even considered #2 in the division, Povetkin is, and TRB puts him behind Fury...
                  Last edited by ////; 01-28-2015, 03:00 PM.

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                  • Canvas
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                    #29
                    Golovkin is not champ. Cotto is.

                    Kovalev is not champ. Stevenson is.

                    Wilder is not champ. Wlad is.

                    It does not matter who you THINK is the best in the division.

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                    • Elroy1
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                      #30
                      Well it's kind of like this, obviously Wilder is MORE of a HW champion that say, Leon Soinks etc. But atleast Spinks beat the real champion for the belt.

                      When Vitali Klitschko retired, it was blatantly obvious that Wladimir Klitschko was the assumed number 1 best boxer.

                      Since Stiverne was the challenger in waiting, Stiverne and Wladimir should have fought for the WBC.

                      Wladimir would have punched out Stiverne and immediately unified the HW titles.

                      Instead of that, Chris Arreola got an illegitimate title shot, organised PURELY no doubt by US authorities so the belt can be kept on the other side of the Atlantic.

                      People used to complain about the 2 brothers locking up the belts and not fighting, now we have an even WORSE situation in which a country of boxers might try to establish their own "HW lineage" at the exclusion of the REAL champ/contenders. A regress back to old days. That would suck!

                      Wilder has absolutely no right to be champion.

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