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  • IMDAZED
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    #21
    Originally posted by texasboi15
    Supposedly Khan is the frontrunner.
    Mayweather has first dibs on him. I'm pretty sure Haymon would be more willing to make that fight instead of giving him to the guy he can't ever agree with (Arum)

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      #22
      Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
      Floyd basically has the Pac fight on the table and his legacy will forever be affected by his decision...

      he can fight Pac with a 60/40 split or fight Cotto 2 in a pointless rematch...

      Going by history, I think it's clear that Floyd is willing to take less money to fight the easier opponent...

      Cotto has no promoter and network obligation...

      Floyd can just fight Cotto under Mayweather Promotions (good luck with Mayweather Promotions promoting its first major PPV - yikes) and on Showtime without HBO...

      The issue is that no one in the mainstream media is going to care about the fight... Mayweather rematches have only happened when the first fight had a controversial decision... it's going to be hard to sell for $80... and it's going against Canelo who is the 3rd/4th biggest PPV draw and a bigger draw than Cotto.. Mexican fans won't be interested in the Cotto fight over Canelo... How much will Showtime invest in promoting the fight? You can bet CBS will want to invest nothing in that fight especially after the Pac-fight failure... I think fans will go from wanting to see Floyd lose to gaining pleasure by seeing Floyd's PPVs flop..that'll be the new "wanting Floyd to lose" appeal.. and that's NOT good for Floyd and Showtime... But hey the Pac fight is already past expiration so Floyd-Cotto 2, Let's get it on! He bloodied his nose and he has Roach now doughhhhh

      Agree with this. Fans need to start showing their disapproval with their dollars. Especially if they have the opportunity to do so on the same day that floyd fights. Not buying his ppv is one thing but buying someone else's, especially a Mexicans, on the same night, let alone on Cinco de mayo is an all too real possible situation and nightmare for Mayweather/Haymon.

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        #23
        Originally posted by texasboi15
        Supposedly Khan is the frontrunner.
        Khan has to give Showtime one more fight... PPV fight doesn't count... Khan-Pacquiao can be made at the end of the year like in December on HBO... there is no way that fight happens next...

        I think Pac will fight either Lucas M., Provo, or Vargas.. Provo is a long shot because Pac fighting in Brooklyn is a stretch...

        I think we'll get Pac v. Lucas next...

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          #24
          Originally posted by Hyacinth
          Agree with this. Fans need to start showing their disapproval with their dollars. Especially if they have the opportunity to do so on the same day that floyd fights. Not buying his ppv is one thing but buying someone else's, especially a Mexicans, on the same night, let alone on Cinco de mayo is an all too real possible situation and nightmare for Mayweather/Haymon.
          I agree. I actually didn't buy ma weathers fights wit guererro or both Maidana fights. I though Canelo was a challenge, and I purchased it. Unless he fights GGG which is less likely than Pac, I sint buying anymore floyd fights.
          unfortunately showtime will suffer more bc floyd is guaranteed 30 mil

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          • rasdun
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            #25
            Originally posted by observer
            Oscar's not doing anything. Canelo wants the date. Who can blame him? It's a Mexican holiday, and he is the most popular active Mexican boxer. And they are saying they will move if Floyd - Pacquiao gets made. Canelo tends to do emotional moves like that (fighting Lara is another example).

            And please, whoever was saying Canelo overpriced himself for the Cotto fight. If you know the numbers, please tell us. If you don't ...
            I agree. They already have canelo v Kirkland signed but are doing the courtesy of moving for Pac v may. Otherwise, why should they not fight that day? May don't git cinco de mayo rights for life

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              #26
              Originally posted by Hyacinth
              Agree with this. Fans need to start showing their disapproval with their dollars. Especially if they have the opportunity to do so on the same day that floyd fights. Not buying his ppv is one thing but buying someone else's, especially a Mexicans, on the same night, let alone on Cinco de mayo is an all too real possible situation and nightmare for Mayweather/Haymon.
              It's been written about at nauseam, regardless of who Mayweather fights on May 2nd Canelo/Kirkland will be on regular HBO not on PPV. The only fight Canelo was going to put on PPV was Cotto as the opponent.

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                #27
                Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
                Khan has to give Showtime one more fight... PPV fight doesn't count... Khan-Pacquiao can be made at the end of the year like in December on HBO... there is no way that fight happens next...

                I think Pac will fight either Lucas M., Provo, or Vargas.. Provo is a long shot because Pac fighting in Brooklyn is a stretch...

                I think we'll get Pac v. Lucas next...
                Not according to the article on the front page.

                Last year, British star Amir Khan (30-3, 19KOs) declared that he was a complete free agent with no contractual ties to Golden Boy Promotions or Showtime. Khan s


                He's a free agent

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                • TheWinners
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by rasdun
                  I agree. They already have canelo v Kirkland signed but are doing the courtesy of moving for Pac v may. Otherwise, why should they not fight that day? May don't git cinco de mayo rights for life
                  Him moving the fight off of May 2nd has nothing to do with courtesy for the fans. These guys don't care about the fans more than money. He know damn well he wouldn't have a shot to get no viewers if that fight was on. It wouldn't have nothing to do with the fans.

                  On top of that it doesn't even matter if he fights Kahn or Cotto, if they don't move off that date they gone lose a lot of viewers on HBO. They gone end up moving off the date anyway.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by oneon11
                    Oscar continue to use Mayweather as the bad guy for boxing. If he wouldn't have overpriced that redhead kid he keeps thinking is a star maybe the fight with Cotto could have been done. But Oscar is about as dumb as a rock when it comes to negotiations. He better apologize to Richard & see if he can get him back because if Ann Wolf trains Kirkland he can forget about Canelo winning that fight.
                    I agree with you man Oscar mess up everything

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
                      Khan has to give Showtime one more fight... PPV fight doesn't count... Khan-Pacquiao can be made at the end of the year like in December on HBO... there is no way that fight happens next...

                      I think Pac will fight either Lucas M., Provo, or Vargas.. Provo is a long shot because Pac fighting in Brooklyn is a stretch...

                      I think we'll get Pac v. Lucas next...


                      khan signed a 3 fight deal with showtime.

                      he has fought 3 times on showtime

                      Molina
                      diaz
                      alexander

                      his contract is up

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