Moonves to Espinoza - No Haymon unless Mayweather/Pacquiao

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Im saying floyd is probably a big investor. Im not 100% sure about that, but it does make sense.

No he isn't... It's a private equity firm, I can't recall the name but it's been reported.. Think Wall Street Silicon Valley hedge fund guys that funded stuff like Facebook before it got big.. Mitt Romney type guys... These guys are big business, floyd has peanuts compared to them

[AgainstTheRopes]

Moonves doesn't care, CBS and Showtime is more than boxing. They don't even get that many subscribers who are ordering showtime just for the boxing. They already took a loss signing Floyd to that massive contract, without gaining any subscribers or making big profit on his past two fights. The soul intention for signing Floyd was that they would bring in profit and they didn't the Canelo fight was the only fight that made any real profit.

Haymon doesnt care either, he already putting guys on NBC, Spi ke, BET, the deals wasn't even for Haymon it was Floyds deal with Showtime, Haymon never tied down any of his other fighters to multilple fight showtime contracts he is pretty smart he got away with using golden boy through Richard Shaeffer to promote his fighters without signing them to long term promotional contracts. just a fight by fight basis without being tied down.

Haymon still needs a platform to stage his bigger fights and PPVs for the time being. NBC only has 4 dates this year and 2 of them are already set. I doubt we see the big names on BET or NBC Sportnet so there's plenty of talent to put on good Showtime cards.

[Xi_]

lol@anyone who believes this.

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

if les gets this done he should be considered for boxing HOF.

[umop-ap!sdn]

I cant see anyone, pacfan or otherwise making any excuses. I do however see a little pansy trying to run away to australia when he should be negotiating and getting slapped down by the guy who pays his wages. This has already made the few fans brave/thick enough to come in this thread cry a little...and more will come, just watch!

You sir are an indescribably detestable onanist and a primitive mattress-soiling nauseating assault on the senses. Reading your posts make me vomit, senseless hate for two men. You hate so much, Julien Blanc would feel loved standing next to you.

[Mitchell Kane]

do people even stop to think here for just a minute?

Moonves is going to cutoff Haymon and his enormous stable? It would essentially mean the end of showtime boxing and thereby lose millions of subscribers and potential ppv revenue.

Yeah, I can't think of another instance where a cable network banned Haymon after his fighters started jumping ship...

[AgainstTheRopes]

Yeah, I can't think of another instance where a cable network banned Haymon after his fighters started jumping ship...

HBO still had Top Rank, K2, and several others

Showtime has Haymon and that's it

[Mitchell Kane]

Haymon still needs a platform to stage his bigger fights and PPVs for the time being. NBC only has 4 dates this year and 2 of them are already set. I doubt we see the big names on BET or NBC Sportnet so there's plenty of talent to put on good Showtime cards.

That's what I don't think people get out of all this.

NBC Sports, Spike, BET...those channels simply aren't very significant and and it's far from proven that a) Haymon will make good matches b) the audiences will tune in.

The only major thing about all this is the very few NBC dates he has.

The pattern for most of these network deals is the match-making and ratings go down over time.

Haymon has his work cut out for him to make this a real success...unless some TV network gets ****** and gives him a huge deal before he's proven this will work over the long haul.

[Mitchell Kane]

HBO still had Top Rank, K2, and several others

Showtime has Haymon and that's it

Golden Boy Promotions and Gary Shaw/Roc Nation.

[BTL]

Les can **** my wife if he gets this done.