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  • #41
    Originally posted by Flash13 View Post
    I wonder how much of that 100 million dollar pool is Floyds? I would guess a large chunk of it. Man oh man what an interesting situation floyd is in. There is no way Haymon can do this without those showtimes dates. WOW!
    None of that 100 million is going to floyd.. This is private equity money and its earmarked to front Al haymon on this network boxing, so eventually they grab a TV deal similar to nfl, wwe, ufc, etc...
    Floyd has nothing to do with this,, he gets paid by showtime

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    • #42
      it makes perfect sense that moonves would be stepping on haymons throat. pac and arum have been telling everyone who will listen that they have agreed to everything, and nobody from floyds side has denied it. sure, you have espinoza trying to clean up some of the mess, but nobody can get him to point to any points still being contested or where exactly the process stalled. if arum is the problem, moonves is not going to hobble haymon over it, he is going to back floyd, who is his investment, and he is going to say that arum made it impossible to come to an agreement.
      floyd is backed into a corner, he can either fight pac, or let the world watch him sitting in his own puddle of piss crying over whatever he chooses to blame.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
        None of that 100 million is going to floyd.. This is private equity money and its earmarked to front Al haymon on this network boxing, so eventually they grab a TV deal similar to nfl, wwe, ufc, etc...
        Floyd has nothing to do with this,, he gets paid by showtime
        Im saying floyd is probably a big investor. Im not 100% sure about that, but it does make sense.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes View Post
          do people even stop to think here for just a minute?

          Moonves is going to cutoff Haymon and his enormous stable? It would essentially mean the end of showtime boxing and thereby lose millions of subscribers and potential ppv revenue.
          Moonves doesn't care, CBS and Showtime is more than boxing. They don't even get that many subscribers who are ordering showtime just for the boxing. They already took a loss signing Floyd to that massive contract, without gaining any subscribers or making big profit on his past two fights. The soul intention for signing Floyd was that they would bring in profit and they didn't the Canelo fight was the only fight that made any real profit.

          Haymon doesnt care either, he already putting guys on NBC, Spi ke, BET, the deals wasn't even for Haymon it was Floyds deal with Showtime, Haymon never tied down any of his other fighters to multilple fight showtime contracts he is pretty smart he got away with using golden boy through Richard Shaeffer to promote his fighters without signing them to long term promotional contracts. just a fight by fight basis without being tied down.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes View Post
            lose millions of subscribers and potential ppv revenue.
            Most showtime boxing cards don't even average a million viewers, how would they lose MILLIONS of subscribers?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
              None of that 100 million is going to floyd.. This is private equity money and its earmarked to front Al haymon on this network boxing, so eventually they grab a TV deal similar to nfl, wwe, ufc, etc...
              Floyd has nothing to do with this,, he gets paid by showtime
              He's wondering if Floyd invested/contributed money for Haymon's project

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              • #47
                Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
                Most showtime boxing cards don't even average a million viewers, how would they lose MILLIONS of subscribers?
                100% true

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                  Thats not true. Hauser playing it safe and working both sides
                  Yep the whole thing is speculation and rumours not a single concrete piece in the whole article , Hauser , that name says it all .

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Beercules View Post
                    100% true
                    Floyd defenders are honestly the dumbest people I've ever encountered, zero critical thinking skills, or rationale, and apparently simple math escapes them as well.

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                    • #50
                      I don't believe this but I do think Moonves is putting pressure on him to make this fight and rightfully so! I have no problem with that at all! Why don't HBO make the same Bold Move As Well because it is both sides Bull****ting the fans! Force Arum Hand To Make That Fight As Well instead of once again 1 Guy being Blamed for everything while the other side can feed the fans AWFUL MATCH UPS like Pacquiao vs Algeiri

                      Enough with the BS! No reason why that fight can't happen in May!

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