Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: It's 80-20 That Mayweather Fight Will Happen

[bigjavi973]

well consider this last 3 ppvs for manny equal 1.5 million..floys last 3 equaal 4 million
btw floyd cos like 20 more right?
using the method 4 divided by 1.5...equals 2.6..mean the split based off this could be 74/26


now that is real math no favoritism

Name 1 fighter floyd can fight that will net him over 100 mil? Which is 3 times what he gets

[Scipio2009]

agree to an extent, but you cannot compare pack yell at this point to Mayweather at that point. At that point, Mayweather have really never done more than 400,000 pay per view buys

Correct. Floyd Mayweather was just starting his run on PPV, but he was heading into the PPV realm as one of the top p4p fighters in the sport, with future potential brimming. Taking the short money was his chance to break out into being a star.

Pacquiao has seen his best days past him, now in the clear decline of his career as a boxer, with his starpower already in wane, Pacquiao is now in a position where he's battling for relevance, tbh.

75/25 is a far more realistic situation than the "60/40 out of concern for the fans" talk that Pacquiao is pushing.

[KillerJones]

The fight is going to happen, and its going to happen at 60 40. Like Pac said, Floyd doesn't have a choice this time around.

[bigjavi973]

well i dont have to accept the numbers game of 95%..i know boxing bette than that 95% more than likely..didnt say pac wasnt competitive i simply showed u how cotto's ko's are higher in his last six at a higher weight while manny cant stop or knock down hurt bradley or stop espn's own chris algier...hell even rios made it allt he way through..cotto fought the stiffer competition as well imo..wed saw ali frazier 3 times but all we do is praise those 2..anothe contradiction..i wont hold against either guy if htey are in good fights regardless im watching..and buy..

just had to laugh? When has rios or bradley been ko'd or hurt extremely bad? Pac ko's fighters now? All this time I thought he usually tkos them.

[MisanthropicNY]

All Pac said was 80-20 the fight would happen...I think the fight will happen like 2-3 years from now..kind of like Hopkins-Jones 2

[rasdun]

Explain to me how a UD could've went either way? I watched the Canelo Trout multiple times. It wasn't a landslide. It was competitive. But Canelo clearly won the fight which is why he got a UD. You cant say a UD could've went either way man.

Do you really believe that Rios had the same amount of chance to beat Pacquiao? Tell me one instance a fighter came off a loss at his natural weight, moved up, and had a significant shot against a top class champion in that division? The fact is Maidana had already fought a couple WWs. And after he beat them he then went on to beat a hyped but still undefeated fighter in Broner.

I agreed with you that talent wise they are similar. But he had a much better shot of beating Mayweather than Rios had of beating Pacquiao. Even with Mayweather to me being the much harder challenge. The reason being is Maidana had fought at the weight a few times before while Rios never has. That's tough to fight at a weight you never have before against a top class opponent after coming off a loss at your natural weight. Even coming off a win it would've been tough for him.

1. R u really using boxing judges to determine how close a fight is. Canelo v trout could've went either way, just like Canelo v Mayweather wasn't competitive despite it not being a ud.
2. Rios moved up in weight but was having problems making 140, and he was coming off a loss but pac was coming off an even worse loss

[Scipio2009]

Why stop at 70/30? 95/5 will not be a problem if Pac really wants the fight.

you compare Oscar vs Floyd negotiation to Floyd vs Pac? Floyd fans logic

Because Pacquiao makes more money fighting Jessie Vargas than he would make on a 5% split, giving Pacquiao an actual option that would be more viable. Pacquiao might even be able to walk away from 80/20, with the Vargas fight being the better financial option.

Anything beyond that, even if its' only 75/25, leaves Pacquiao likely walking away from more money to take a far lesser fight.

When Floyd fought Oscar, Oscar was the unquestioned top draw in the sport and Mayweather was the sport's unquestioned top fighter.

In this scenario, Mayweather is not only the sport's top drawer, he's also the sport's top fighter. Meanwhile, Pacquiao is in obvious and clear decline, as a fighter and as a draw.

you're right, a terrible comparison indeed.

[bigjavi973]

Pacquiao, almost literally, has no other fight that would get him even $30m; a point that's pretty common knowledge, tbh.

Floyd can fight Khan (US and UK PPV, plus TV rights throughout Europe, Pakistan and the Middle East) or fight Cotto again (chasing a sixth divisional championship, Cotto "giving him his toughest fight", Cotto "being reborn under the guidance of Freddie Roach", etc) and comfortably make $45m in May, with eyes toward a joint Mayweather-Alvarez 2 PPV fight in September for another $65m, all without having to deal with Arum.

Ego is a heck of a thing to deal with; control is even worse.

So floyd fights cotto or khan and canelo and wont pass 100 mil. He fights pacquiao ONCE, he gets over 150 mill. I thought he was the "money" man? Cuz thats not a smart "business" decision.

[Scipio2009]

Ignore the fact that Floyd's two biggest PPV'S were as high as they were due to his opponent, lol.

Floyd took a 25/75 split when he fought Oscar, who was coming into that fight as a star. Floyd took a 85/15 split when he fought Canelo, who was the undefeated challenger and budding star. Both fights, mind you, were believed to be competitive going in.

Mayweather-Pacquiao, upon the open of the betting line, put Mayweather as a 3:1 favorite. get over yourself.

[bigjavi973]

You beat me to it. You're right Rios is not a bum. He's just not a legit WW and he was coming off a loss. But don't sell me some bs about Algeri dude. He was on ESPN Friday Night Fights 2 fights ago! He upset Provo***ov, big whoop! The guy was a 140 pounder that wasn't ready to be on that big stage period. Robert Guerrero beat a couple legit WWs before he fought Floyd. But that was Mayweather's weakest level of opposition. Did he not fight the guy after serving a damn jail sentence? Did you just ****ing compare Alvarez with Bradley and say I don't know about boxing? Im not even going to respond to you anymore dude. That's enough.

Really? Aykin and berto? and guerrero came from lightweight. Just like jmm.