How many losses would Floyd have if he fought Margarito/Williams/Sergio/Pac?

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  • Luilun
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    #71
    He would have 4 losses but he would be highly respected and not viewed as a cherry picker with no balls. Would probably have less money though

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    • H.B.Viper
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      #72
      Great subject!

      I agree with alot of the posters here that styles makes fights!
      But.... What weight class are we speaking here? 154, or 147?
      If Floyd fought say P-Will, or Margarito at 147, he would wilt under the pressure of A.M. There would be no way he could keep him from coming.
      That elbow to the throat won't work.
      Same with P-Will. A volume puncher. And a HW's reach, who would walk Floyd down. Angle shots from a southpaw, who like A.M. can take a punch from any Welter.
      Martinez at 154 would be just too much for Floyd to handle. Too strong, slick, swift, and sneaky with the left hand. If that's the same Sergio that fought P-Will to a standstill at 154, Floyd would be in serious trouble.
      Prime Floyd would be in a world of trouble if from what I saw in Carson,CA 10yrs ago when A.M. & P-Will got together for the Welter title.
      Matter of fact, didn't Floyd go into "retirement" after Williams was king of the Welters????

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      • spanishboxing
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        #73
        Originally posted by JasonBoxing
        Margarito
        Williams
        Martinez
        Pacquiao

        I think he can go 3-1. I just don't see Floyd beating a much bigger prime Martinez.
        Ppl should really stop bringing up Margarito.. yes Floyd didn't fight him...Floyd beats any version of him..it's Margarito y'all talking about..now vs William it's a tough fight..Floyd just didn't want to take a beating while beating him ..just like with Pac..tough fights ..vs Martinez another tough fight... Floyd has the skills to beat any fighter ..the issue is him testing himself.. he been fighting fighters tailor man for him.. slow flat footed boxers.. just like Pac lately.. except Bradley. Imo Floyd would have at least 2 L.

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        • RespekonMyName
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          #74
          Williams: Countered to death by Quintana. Floyd would find a way.

          Pac: Struggles with counter punchers, Floyd's strong suit.

          Margarito: Him and Baldomir are practically clones.

          Martinez: Would be a test.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Reloaded
            Fantasy is the only place you can say that kid , reality is a b1tch isnt it lol .
            reality? reality is that Floyd ducks all these fighters. that's reality. hahahhaa

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            • Pigeons
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              #76
              Didn't Carlos Quintana outbox Paul Williams at 147?

              Martinez would have been a corpse at 147, but a prime Martinez at 160 has a great shot at beating Floyd.

              Margarito was a cheater. I don't really include him in any conversations. Who knows how many times he fought with plaster in his wraps. Either way, he lost to Williams and Mosley at WW. Mayweather would have beaten him the same.

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              • JmH Reborn
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                #77
                Y'all forgot prime "He lives too far" Cotto

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                • ADP02
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by JasonBoxing
                  This is a wonderful point that so few posters get. I often tell Wladimir fans that he would not have survived the 90's. They than talk about how Wlad matches up well against everybody outside of Lennox. But it's not about that. It's about the cumulative damage he would have taken going through a gauntlet of fighters like Morrison/Ruddock/Bruno/Tucker/PRIME Mercer before even getting to Bowe/Holyfield/Lewis. It all adds up. This is why resume is so important.


                  How much longer would Ali have lasted if he avoided the damage he took from Frazier?
                  That's it. Ali and Frazier were never the same after their trilogy. Fighting against riskier opponents that can damage you will take something out of you for the next time you fight another risky opponent.

                  Floyd goes on vacation when that happens.

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                  • ADP02
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    Go watch Williams Quintana 1 and you will how easy Floyd would have out boxed him .
                    What did the 3 opponents that Williams had trouble against have that Floyd is not? Quintana, Lara and Martinez are all 3 southpaws.

                    Still:
                    - with Quintana, Williams adjusted and knocked him out in the rematch

                    - with Sergio Martinez, Sergio was getting hit as well and it was his power that helped him defend against Williams .

                    - Lara happened after the KO from Martinez. Williams had trouble regaining old form then too.


                    Williams had the reach and size to catch you no matter where you are in the ring. On top of that his work rate was crazy high. Floyd counted on it being a chess match but Williams didn't care what you threw at him. He would still attack and attack.

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                    • El Malo.
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                      #80
                      He beats Margo, Manny. Martinez would be 50/50 fight and Williams UDs him 7-5 kinda card

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