Comments Thread For: SHO's Espinoza: Arum 'Not Truthful' on Mayweather Talks

[TLC8]

Floyd, Espo, Go Head, Duck Manny For $120M, And Go Fight Cotto For $30M Illiterate!

If he were an international presence like Ali, he should have fought Pacquiao in Macau, China or Dubai or Morocco for $120M TAX FREE. Instead, since he gets home sick and he's illiterate, Floyd would rather stay at home where he owns the MGM Brass, the judges, the referees, the Nevada Boxing Commission and give back 40% in taxes.. Give back $48M!!! Brilliant. Go fight Cotto for $30M minus 40% in taxes, and net $28M.. Floyd is as dumb as he looks in those Redd Foxx sunglasses.

[Flash13]

To IMDAZED:

I see your links, i stand corrected. I can only post really small messages, idk wtf is going on. I disagree with the rest of your post but i will deal with that another time.

[IMDAZED]

To IMDAZED:

I see your links, i stand corrected. I can only post really small messages, idk wtf is going on. I disagree with the rest of your post but i will deal with that another time.

Whatever. Truth changes nothing for dudes like you. Keep up the blame Floyd at all costs campaign.

[Pigeons]

If he were an international presence like Ali, he should have fought Pacquiao in Macau, China or Dubai or Morocco for $120M TAX FREE. Instead, since he gets home sick and he's illiterate, Floyd would rather stay at home where he owns the MGM Brass, the judges, the referees, the Nevada Boxing Commission and give back 40% in taxes.. Give back $48M!!! Brilliant. Go fight Cotto for $30M minus 40% in taxes, and net $28M.. Floyd is as dumb as he looks in those Redd Foxx sunglasses.

Tax free. If you are an American citizen, it doesn't matter what country you earn your money in, you have to pay American taxes on all income.

Get your facts straight next time bozo.

[FloydvsPac]

I tend to believe an executive of a company who he represents publicly, who if he were proven to be a liar, could negatively affect the business reputation of that company over a boxing promoter. Showtime would fire Espinoza for unethical practices for making a false public statement. Espinoza is an employee at a company, he has people to report to. Arum has been known to lie in public statements. If Espinoza puts on bad cards then he is a poor matchmaker not a liar.

Arum is a snake. But in this case, he has publicly went on record saying they agreed to terms and even named Moonves and Plepler to back him up. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP73mqS1vhg

If Arum is lying, then Moonves (Espinoza's boss) & Plepler (CEO of HBO) would dispute his claims and call Arum a liar, which they haven't. And Espinoza's public statement NEVER disputed Pac & Arum's claim that they agreed to terms. Espinoza was only defending Mayweather by saying Arum is "misrepresenting" Floyd. No sh^t!! Arum doesn't represent Floyd, so he can say anything he wants about him. Espinoza's statement basically claimed Arum's antics of ridiculing Floyd might kill the deal. Really?? I doubt his boss Moonves would agree with him.

[Golden Boi 360]

Sounds like the fight is still getting worked out which is good news.

It's simple, Floyd haters will call Espinoza a liar but believe what Bob says.

[AgainstTheRopes]

Arum is a snake. But in this case, he has publicly went on record saying they agreed to terms and even named Moonves and Plepler to back him up. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP73mqS1vhg

If Arum is lying, then Moonves (Espinoza's boss) & Plepler (CEO of HBO) would dispute his claims and call Arum a liar, which they haven't. And Espinoza's public statement NEVER disputed Pac & Arum's claim that they agreed to terms. Espinoza was only defending Mayweather by saying Arum is "misrepresenting" Floyd. No sh^t!! Arum doesn't represent Floyd, so he can say anything he wants about him. Espinoza's statement basically claimed Arum's antics of ridiculing Floyd might kill the deal. Really?? I doubt his boss Moonves would agree with him.

Your reading comprehension skills got you twisted. You have no idea what it is being said.

[Flash13]

Whatever. Truth changes nothing for dudes like you. Keep up the blame Floyd at all costs campaign.

It doesn't. I dont blame Floyd cause i want to, but history has shown that besides the first round of negotiations(which i'm still not sure exactly what went on with the cut off dates, but if u want to give that one to floyd; fine) he has shown multiple times he doesn't want this fight through his actions.

Edit: Especially may 2012 when he came out, and acted like the 40 mill offer was fair, and pac was the idiot not to accept. I mean all the money i have put in his pocket, to give me the middle finger like that. I did not like that one bit.... one bit.

[Nay_Sayer]

"It makes you wonder. When you hear these types of misrepresentations....someone who wants to make a deal doesn't go out and publicly misrepresent the status of the negotiations. Maybe Floyd and [Alex] Ariza are right - maybe Bob Arum is going to be the reason this fight doesn't happen. If he continues to misrepresent and mischaracterize the status of the negotiations, he may end up killing the deal." -Steven Espinoza

This quote right here says everything you need to now about the state of negotiations. Arum is the reason why this fight didn't happen in 2010 - and if it doesn't happen in 2015, Arum will also be to blame.

Why do you Pac****s continue to defend this guy?

[IMDAZED]

It doesn't. I dont blame Floyd cause i want to, but history has shown that besides the first round of negotiations(which i'm still not sure exactly what went on with the cut off dates, but if u want to give that one to floyd; fine) he has shown multiple times he doesn't want this fight through his actions.

There's been only one time besides now where both parties negotiated with each other. The rest is just media banter. And in that one negotiation, Team Pacqiao walked away. But like I said, continue your Blame Mayweather at all Costs campaign.