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  • Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
    The point was made in clear reference to the notion that Arum doesn't want the fight, regardless of how hard he's spinning the media. Floyd, practically since the end of Maidana 2, has said that his next fight would be May 2, 2015 with no mention of who the opponent would be.

    If Arum refuses to come to terms, which Mayweather and Espinoza have stated are still being discussed and no one at Showtime, HBO, CBS, Time Warner or any other party not named Bob Arum has corroborated, Mayweather will move on to other options; a second fight with Miguel Cotto for the lineal middleweight championship, or a US/UK PPV against Amir Khan, are the two likely shoices.
    What didn't Arum accept? Is there something that you heard of that we should know? Let's hear the details?

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    • Most sane fight fans will treasure the free Alvarez/ Kirkland card on May 2 and not give Cotto or the Littler Hustler another dime.
      I just can't wait for FMJ to fade away.
      Showtime created an embarrassing monster.

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      • Originally posted by The_Sandman View Post
        I don't have a definite answer to this question like you or anyone else does. But I would imagine Floyd isn't saying anything (And I don't think Arum should be saying anything either), because we all know how fragile these negotiations can be. Say one wrong thing, and the bridge can collapse. And we both know that the bridge between Floyd and Arum is a very fragile one. So I do believe that they should go into these negotiations very cautiously. But out of the two, Floyd has offered (say what you will, you don't **** around with 40 mill to not make the fight), and according to sources, 60/40 split of the PPV revenue. So I'm not going to sit here and say Floyd doesn't want the fight. The longevity of the negotiations should be a reason to believe that they are still trying and they do in fact, still want the fight to happen. If the fight doesn't happen, it isn't because either Floyd or Pac didn't want it, but someone else didn't want it.
        All I know is that there's some kind of hold-up preventing this fight from being signed and announced. I'm getting sick of all the "will they won't they" articles to be honest. But as a fan my perspective is that one camp is making noise daily for the fight to take place and the other camp is trying to downplay that there are any negotiations going on at all. One camp clearly wants it more.

        To be clear, I would rather see both sides talking about the negotiations more. It would be nice to know what the hell is going on, instead of having to settle with "everything has been agreed to" or "we haven't agreed to anything."

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        • Bob arum continues to win the PR/media war with his daily comments.

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          • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            Bob arum continues to win the PR/media war with his daily comments.
            Its not perception, floyd really is being a pansy and is about to duck Manny.

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            • f@ck arum and pacquiao bunch of p@ssies.

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              • I'm curious, if for some reason (how highly improbable it might be) Arum steps away, what would Floyd's next excuse be? Would it be the glove thing? That's really the only other reason I can think of.

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                • Originally posted by junior gong View Post
                  Its not perception, floyd really is being a pansy and is about to duck Manny.
                  If that was true, Bob wouldn't be in the media day in and day out trying to control the narrative. Floyd this, Floyd that. Same arum bs, different year.

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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    What didn't Arum accept? Is there something that you heard of that we should know? Let's hear the details?
                    Arum is the only one speaking; whatever Pacquiao says is likely due to something Arum told him to say, tbh.

                    Moonves (head of CBS, parent company of Showtime) and the head of HBO have yet to say anything. The MGM Grand, the venue apparently agreed to to host the fight, hasn't mentioned anything. Stephen Espinoza, EVP of Showtime and the man responsible for Showtime's sports programming, has openly stated that there is no contract for either party to sign.

                    For all of the talk of everything having been agreed to, Arum has never actually put forward a single actual term that he's agreed to. Ariza was a little tongue-in-cheek about it, but is Pacquiao fighting out of the red corner or the blue corner?

                    Even beyond the PPV split, how Floyd Mayweather handles the live gate is drastically different from how most other people handle live gates. Did Arum agree to not get anything from the live gate (Floyd rents the venue from the MGM, selling tickets/concessions under his own company)?

                    For term after term, the information put forward has been so vague and broad stroke, that Arum agreeing to terms is nonsensical. Is Arum really going to walk away from his beer sponsor without issue? lol

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                    • Originally posted by junior gong View Post
                      Its not perception, floyd really is being a pansy and is about to duck Manny.
                      You know what I would accept that if Arum wasnt feeding us BS.

                      But he is doing it on a daily basis.

                      When reporters are telling you that:

                      a) no contract exists

                      b) networks are still negotiating amongst themselves

                      You know Arum is full of it.

                      Theres 2 possibilities here. Arum is trying to drum up public pressure because he genuinely feels like Floyd will turn down the deal. Or Arum knows the fight is happening and he has decided to drag Floyd's name through the mud to get his pound of flesh come hell or high water.

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