Is Mayweather-Cotto 2 a competitive fight?

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  • Rostov Papa
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    #51
    No.

    When in history has a former 10-2, at best 9-3 fight been a competitive fight when neither guy is shot to shyte?

    All this hype about Cotto all the sudden being a "new" fighter under Roach, is rubbish.

    He's still the same ole Cotto, but 2-3 years older, and more shopworn.

    Fight is a disgrace if it happens.

    Fook, at least Algieri presented a new style, and was a young, undefeated opponent.

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    • Rostov Papa
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      #52
      And fightng at any weight above 150 is just addng excess weight to slow Cotto down, and the extra muscle drains his stamina more (which is why he was so gassed against Floyd - throwing like 20 punches in the championship rounds).

      Cotto is best when he restricts his diet a bit, makes 147, and healthily rehydrates to around 155 on fight night.

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      • SplitSecond
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        #53
        mayweather doesn't beat any top level fighter easily, not unless they are physically impaired

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        • Don Pichardo
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          #54
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          I think its a tougher fight for Floyd for 2 reasons , it will be fought a little higher weight which will suit Cotto and I think Cotto is on a bit of a high and Floyd has slipped since they last met .

          I believe Cotto is a tougher fight for Floyd than what Manny is .
          I think cotto and paq are equal threats. Cotto is much stronger than Floyd and paq is much faster. Those are the only fights I wanna see for Floyd. All other pose zero threat. Only the "new" guys think otherwise. What I mean by new is those who want to see someone new in there with Floyd rather than a Cotto rematch. Really khan over Cotto. Not me

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          • Don Pichardo
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            #55
            Originally posted by Furn
            Cotto went 39-0 at 140 and is 7-4 above that weight.

            So it's hard to make a case that he was a better fighter when he fought Floyd at 154 especially when he barely won a round against Austin Trout a few mths later at the same weight.
            Cotto completely disregarded trout. Look up the all access episodes of that fight and watch the interviews. He woukd smirk at trout. Trained like he was fighting butter bean and deserved to loose that fight. He looked terrible in that fight becuase he expected to walk through that fight. Trout on the other hand fought like it was the fight of his life. It was. Kudos to trout and shame on Cotto.

            I lost a lot of respect for cotto becuSe of that. I was going to stop following him. But he hired Freddie and literally bowed down to him. Meaning he does exactly as told by Freddie. And it shows. I think Cotto under roach makes a very tough fight for mayweTher. Wether he wins remains to be seen.

            Btw. The Cotto who fought martinez dismantles trout.

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            • Fantasiabruja
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              #56
              I am maybe only second to El Angel as one of Cotto's diehard fans, but based on Floyd's history of training harder and therefore performing much better in rematches. I have to say that the rematch will not be competitive specially if Cotto the boxer shows up, the only version of Cotto that has a chance is the bully. Freddie needs to study Floyd/Maidana one and work on making those looping right hand shots more accurate for Cotto. Floyd easily beats conventional boxers he struggle a little with reckless fighters with unconventional styles that's why Pac beats him IMO.

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              • SCEN3RY
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                #57
                Originally posted by Dan-O-Mac
                What's the point of a 157 catchweight, neither will likely come in at the limit. Cotto weighed 154 when he fought Mayweather and 155 when he fought Martinez.

                Not interested in this fight. Not too long ago a majority of the Mayweather fans said he was too small to face the best at middleweight, now they want to see him make history. Go figure.
                Cotto weighed in at 54 the first time because that's the most he could weigh in at. You're speaking of a different weight class, your point is mute. Cotto could repeat and weigh in at 155 if he likes but if a belt is on the line, let there at least be the impression that either fighter could weigh near the division limit. And I'm inclined to believe Cotto takes full advantage and weighs in at like 156.5.

                Who the **** fights for the 160 belt at a 155 cw? Wasn't the Martinez fight a cw of 158?

                As far as May fans, yeah they're flip-flopping right now, at first it wasn't remotely competitive and now there is some much intrigue there for them.

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                • El Angel
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Furn
                  Cotto went 39-0 at 140 and is 7-4 above that weight.

                  So it's hard to make a case that he was a better fighter when he fought Floyd at 154 especially when he barely won a round against Austin Trout a few mths later at the same weight.
                  Come on now. You know that's not true.

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                  • El Angel
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by dan_cov
                    I think it will be and more competitive than the first fight.
                    Floyds slowed down, Cotto isn't going to spend 7 rounds trying to outbox him this time, hes in better shape and has a trainer better suited to him, his style and the style needed.

                    I think its a very competitive fight and more so than Manny.
                    This is the key. Don't you all remember how Floyd looked at 147 against iceberg slow Maidana in September? He's gonna have issues against bigger, better, and stronger fighter in MC.

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                    • Gonzalez_Boxing
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by SCEN3RY
                      Cotto weighed in at 54 the first time because that's the most he could weigh in at. You're speaking of a different weight class, your point is mute. Cotto could repeat and weigh in at 155 if he likes but if a belt is on the line, let there at least be the impression that either fighter could weigh near the division limit. And I'm inclined to believe Cotto takes full advantage and weighs in at like 156.5.

                      Who the **** fights for the 160 belt at a 155 cw? Wasn't the Martinez fight a cw of 158?

                      As far as May fans, yeah they're flip-flopping right now, at first it wasn't remotely competitive and now there is some much intrigue there for them.
                      I realize the weight limit for junior middleweight is 154. I brought up the Mayweather and Martinez weights to illustrate that even when given the opportunity to weigh up to 160, Cotto came in at 155.

                      I think we're kind of on the same page though. My point of not having a catch weight is because A) Cotto will most likely not even come close to the 160 limit. B) Mayweather would be going after the smallest middleweight and one that he already beat. Why cheapen the victory with a catch weight.

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