There shouldn't be any doubt to begin with. Toney's beaten durable Heavyweights at Heavyweight. End of story.
If he beats Rahman on Saturday night, anyone who say's he's not a Heavyweight is an idiot.
You're another raving Klitschko fanatic who doesn't like Toney because he's a Heavyweight that takes the spotlight away from your heros.
With how ****ty the division is right now, Toney fresh off a win over Rahman is a top 3 Heavyweight without a doubt. Anyone who suggest otherwise is an idiot, or a 40 year old hack who knows nothing about boxing.
...I have always had tons of respect for Toney as a boxer. As a heavyweight he hasn't beaten anyone of note. Holy is so far past it that it seems like he is two different fighters. Guinn was sliding so hard and so mentaly fragile that he was an easy win for Toney. Ruiz??? ha ha ha Like I said, Toney hasn't proven **** at heavyweight. Bozo, I have refrained from the personal attacks for a while, yet you start the **** back up like your looking for a problem. Can you respond to anything posted without getting personal?
Another smart post. I really get a sense you know what you're talking about.
Sultan isn't even on Rahman's level. But someone who doesn't watch boxing is not aware of that.
Originally posted by pbds
...A win over Rahman does not remove all doubt at all. Lets see him in the ring with Wlad, Brewster, or even Sultan. Hell, Sultan is a bigger, stronger, better defensive version of Jirov. We all saw what a war that fight was for Toney. If Rahman comes into the ring and looks like he cares, doesn't sleep walk through the fight while bringing his A game, and then Toney still whips him, then I will give Toney credit and I may change my mind about him not proving anything at heavyweight yet. On the other hand, a loss to Rahman will show that he should never have been taken seriously as a heavyweight.
...I have always had tons of respect for Toney as a boxer. As a heavyweight he hasn't beaten anyone of note. Holy is so far past it that it seems like he is two different fighters. Guinn was sliding so hard and so mentaly fragile that he was an easy win for Toney. Ruiz??? ha ha ha Like I said, Toney hasn't proven **** at heavyweight. Bozo, I have refrained from the personal attacks for a while, yet you start the **** back up like your looking for a problem. Can you respond to anything posted without getting personal?
On the lookout to not get banned hey? Good for you.
I think you're a ****, and you're back to saying ****** ****.
Toney was the undisputed Cruiserwieght champion when he moved up. That immediatly gives a substantial ranking at a new weight class.
Stopping Holyfield speaks for itself, even at his age.
He beat Ruiz on 5 weeks notice with one arm after Ruiz gave trouble to countless fighters.
Booker and Guinn were durable Heavyweights and he dominated both of them with ease.
Do you have any idea how it sounds for you of all people to be talking about someone not having proved anything at Heavyweight? You're the grand daddy of the Vitali nut hugging club. You were ALL OVER his nuts, and he hadn't proved jack ****. It was all based on what you thought he was going to do.
The bottom line is that Toney's a top 5 Heavyweight right now anyway you try and spin it.
A win over Rahman puts him right near the top.
With the current state of the division, that's more than enough proof he's a top Heavyweight at current.
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Originally Posted by vandiar
im predicting toney UD 12 on rahman.. nice avatar pbds never realized how big vitali was compared to tyson.. still think prime tyson ko's him though
...Only if he punches him in the nads and naws on his neck while he is on the canvas.
vitali had good skills but it doesn't compare to the skills a prime tyson had, I think vitali would have been overwhelmed and would possibly be scared to fight tyson.
On the lookout to not get banned hey? Good for you.
I think you're a ****, and you're back to saying ****** ****.
Toney was the undisputed Cruiserwieght champion when he moved up. That immediatly gives a substantial ranking at a new weight class.
Stopping Holyfield speaks for itself, even at his age.
He beat Ruiz on 5 weeks notice with one arm after Ruiz gave trouble to countless fighters.
Booker and Guinn were durable Heavyweights and he dominated both of them with ease.
Do you have any idea how it sounds for you of all people to be talking about someone not having proved anything at Heavyweight? You're the grand daddy of the Vitali nut hugging club. You were ALL OVER his nuts, and he hadn't proved jack ****. It was all based on what you thought he was going to do.
The bottom line is that Toney's a top 5 Heavyweight right now anyway you try and spin it.
A win over Rahman puts him right near the top.
With the current state of the division, that's more than enough proof he's a top Heavyweight at current.
...So does that mean that stopping Holy in five years would have the same effect?? Vitali beating legit heavvies for years and years far outweighs anything Toney has done in the division. Vitali recently beat Sanders(who just destroyed Wlad), Danny Williams(who has done nothing but win since then and is in line for a title shot soon), and Kirk (tons of talent) Johnson. Toney has taken out Booker, Old way past his prime Holy, Ruiz, and Guinn. Get the ****er out of here comparing their resumes at heavy. God I hope your boy gets his **** knocked in the dirt. Your gonna be laughed at so hard. O.K., so what if Toney loses to Rahman. You think the Rock sucks so where will that leave your boy? Say it now so we all know where you will stand.
I think you're a ****, and you're back to saying ****** ****.
Lol I bet he's screaming into those silk pillow cases right now
You said his boyfriend wasn't all he's cracked up to be and Bozo takes the bait every time lol
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