Jim Lampley picks Hasim Rahman over Toney

[vandiar]

I could not agree more. The fact of the matter is, Toney's victories at HW are more impressive than Vitali's by far. Its only the blind nuthuggers that try to blow up fringe guys like Sanders and Williams into better fighters than they are.

how can a man that has yet to really prove himself to be a better HEAVYWEIGHT than a man that was at the heavyweight division for his whole career? IMO beating a washed up holyfield, booker, ruiz, and guinn doesn't amount to what klit did at heavyweight. I really respect Toney alot, I think he is a great figher and one of my favorites, but if he loses tomorrow night I think it should end the toney better than klit at heavyweight discussion.

[PBDS]

....Bozo, who could beat Toney now and why?? Where do you rank him exactly and where do you rank the lowly Rahman. I'm guessing you got Toney at 1 and possibly even 2. You gotta have Rahman at like 12-15 considering you thought that Vitali fighting him was a joke and a mockery.

[Bozo_no no]

...You think Toney is the best right now so don't even try to make us think otherwise. Who in your opinion could beat Toney right now and why would they beat him?? Now this post above was better Bozo. You didn't try and change the topic once with inane babbling. Oh wait, I missed the crying and ranting part.

Yea you chose not to reply to the posts that pointed out what you're about and how you act.

Toney is top 5 right now, as a case can be made for Brewster and Byrd to be the top spot.

Unlike you, I think about rankings in regard to the factors that one is supposed to consider. Not that you'd know what they are.

Your whole "You think Toney" this and that just shows how YOU think about your heros, and you displace your utter non sense on to others.

Everything I've said is in regards to a realistic view into the present rankings.

This is afterall, a boxing site.

Not a 41 year old insult-till-you-get-banned site.

[Bozo_no no]

One day, Vitaliy-Lewis fight will be a legendary fight on HBO. Sometimes losses cam become great victories, Bozo.

lol, he LOST. Get over it.

Outside of that loss, his biggest career wins are a joke in the big picture.

Stop crying.

[Kid Achilles]

A Rahman win would be the greatest present boxing could give it's fans at this time. Toney was and is a great fighter and there's a place with his name on it in the IBHOF but at his age and physical condition he has no business in the heavyweight division. All that talk about this being Toney's natural bodyweight is just so much bull**** coming from a guy who's trying to make excuses for a lack of discipline.

Toney bitches, talks trash, and makes excuses because he has the maturity level of some punk still in junior high. What he really needs is a good beating to teach him some humility.

[PBDS]

how can a man that has yet to really prove himself to be a better HEAVYWEIGHT than a man that was at the heavyweight division for his whole career? IMO beating a washed up holyfield, booker, ruiz, and guinn doesn't amount to what klit did at heavyweight. I really respect Toney alot, I think he is a great figher and one of my favorites, but if he loses tomorrow night I think it should end the toney better than klit at heavyweight discussion.

.....Who is this logical kid???? Careful, your gonna be labeled as a Klit nuthugger for stating an objective opinion and your about to get attacked for your views.

[PBDS]

A Rahman win would be the greatest present boxing could give it's fans at this time. Toney was and is a great fighter and there's a place with his name on it in the IBHOF but at his age and physical condition he has no business in the heavyweight division. All that talk about this being Toney's natural bodyweight is just so much bull**** coming from a guy who's trying to make excuses for a lack of discipline.

Toney bitches, talks trash, and makes excuses because he has the maturity level of some punk still in junior high. What he really needs is a good beating to teach him some humility.

...I didn't really have a vested interest in this fight, but the Toney band waggon nut carresers are making me really want to see the Rock step up.

[Bozo_no no]

....Bozo, who could beat Toney now and why?? Where do you rank him exactly and where do you rank the lowly Rahman. I'm guessing you got Toney at 1 and possibly even 2. You gotta have Rahman at like 12-15 considering you thought that Vitali fighting him was a joke and a mockery.

I have no interest in wasting my time spelling out my in depth thoughts to someone who couldn't even begin to have a realistic conversation about the subject matter.

Toney's top 5 right now, and a win moves him up to the point where he could be considered at the top depending on what you think of the other title holders.

Until someone unifies, the top spot is vacent, and the top 2 or 3 are all subjective.

None of this really matters in regards to what you think, because you've proven over and over agian your interst and knowledge run hand in hand along the gutter.

[vandiar]

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Originally Posted by vandiar
how can a man that has yet to really prove himself to be a better HEAVYWEIGHT than a man that was at the heavyweight division for his whole career? IMO beating a washed up holyfield, booker, ruiz, and guinn doesn't amount to what klit did at heavyweight. I really respect Toney alot, I think he is a great figher and one of my favorites, but if he loses tomorrow night I think it should end the toney better than klit at heavyweight discussion.



.....Who is this logical kid???? Careful, your gonna be labeled as a Klit nuthugger for stating an objective opinion and your about to get attacked for your views.

hehe someone new to posting on these forums, I read these forums just about every day though. Im really excited to see this fight, I haven't been this excited about a heavyweight fight since wlad klit/peters.. it should be an interesting fight and a test for toney, and no I am not a klit nuthugger just someone posting my opinion like you said.. to clarify to all the others

[Bozo_no no]

A Rahman win would be the greatest present boxing could give it's fans at this time. Toney was and is a great fighter and there's a place with his name on it in the IBHOF but at his age and physical condition he has no business in the heavyweight division. All that talk about this being Toney's natural bodyweight is just so much bull**** coming from a guy who's trying to make excuses for a lack of discipline.

Toney bitches, talks trash, and makes excuses because he has the maturity level of some punk still in junior high. What he really needs is a good beating to teach him some humility.

We've already established how weak and spite driven your opinion is here.

Toney's physical appearence has NOTHING to do with his conditioning. At a career high 235 lbs he threw over 80 punches a round in his last fight.

You'd be hard pressed to fight a Heavyweight with that activity level.

You call him disgusting because of his shape, yet in the ring he showed every reason why he's one of the most active fighters around right now.

What disgusts me is watching Sam Peter huff and puff after the 5th round unable to put together a combo.

Toney thowing 100 shots per round in rounds 9 - 12 is everything that's missing at Heavyweight right now.

That show right there how much what you think means.