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  • BattlingNelson
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    #61
    Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
    I need a list of 10 clever Ped/Kovalev pun nicknames on my desk by tomorrow morning. Get on it. These aren't going to write themselves.


    I can come up with a few:

    Sergey EPOlev.
    SerPED Kovalev.
    Sergey JUICEvalev

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    • Weebler I
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      #62
      Kind of unfair to blame Kovalev, his manager has stated he is willing to undergo testing.

      Duva doesn't want to take the financial risk, her smaller promotions company clearly can't afford the hit a cancelled fight would cause.

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      • Foreign Soil
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        #63
        Kovalev just following Ward's plan to success, and didn't even need Conte. Pascal following Floyd's flagrant noise to get skeptical eyes off of him while working with Heredia.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Weebler I
          Kind of unfair to blame Kovalev, his manager has stated he is willing to undergo testing.

          Duva doesn't want to take the financial risk, her smaller promotions company clearly can't afford the hit a cancelled fight would cause.
          So it's Money over Health to you.

          What happens to Main Events if one of the fighters gets an injury in training or doesn't make weight that leads to cancellation of the main event? Will they declare bankruptcy?

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          • Reloaded
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            #65
            Originally posted by I'm My Own BOSS
            Great job Duva for calling these tests exactly what they are, a sham. Random testing is year round, and these "unregulated" tests are the exact opposite of that when you know what months you are to be tested in, hence, unregulated. If you're not doing year round, you're not doing random testing, simple as that. Spare me the "its better than nothing". No, its not. Its a joke. Yes, even when Berto and those other clowns got caught. If its not year round, its not catching the guys who are doping out of training camp, which is an essential healing period.
            Thing is they wont hurt you , its easy to sit back and say they dont work so we dont want them , do it anyway , and lets see if a fighter that is going to cheat will still cheat knowing his blood will randomly tested from the moment training begins for the fight !!

            Weigh it all up and I say agree to them , if you dont your hiding something .

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            • MDPopescu
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              #66
              Originally posted by Weebler I
              Kind of unfair to blame Kovalev, his manager has stated he is willing to undergo testing.

              Duva doesn't want to take the financial risk, her smaller promotions company clearly can't afford the hit a cancelled fight would cause.
              ... In summary...

              (I suspect that the majority of high ranked athletes are taking PEDs. Check with www.vada-testing.org and you'll se that there are a few those who took or take voluntary tests -- Bradley, Provodnikov, Algieri among them...)

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              • Weebler I
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                #67
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                So it's Money over Health to you.
                No, I've already said they should test.

                What happens to Main Events if one of the fighters gets an injury in training or doesn't make weight that leads to cancellation of the main event? Will they declare bankruptcy?
                Postponed? If a fighter fails a test there's a good chance the fight never happens.

                I'm just saying, I can understand it from the financial side. Nevertheless, I think they should test.

                I'd take the risk, Pascal has passed testing before if they're confident in their own fighter they should go ahead.

                Originally posted by MDPopescu
                ... In summary...

                (I suspect that the majority of high ranked athletes are taking PEDs. Check with www.vada-testing.org and you'll se that there are a few those who took or take voluntary tests -- Bradley, Provodnikov, Algieri among them...)
                Agreed, but Kovalev is not going to test if Duva tells him not to.
                Last edited by Weebler I; 01-21-2015, 04:27 AM.

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                • Foreign Soil
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                  #68
                  Anybody else think it's funny that Pascal's noise is going to backfire hard? He already touched Kovalev's shoulder, now he's acting childish - that's two strikes, which is one more than necessary for Kovalev to want to maim a foe. Pascal's dug his own grave here.

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                  • Weebler I
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Foreign Soil
                    Anybody else think it's funny that Pascal's noise is going to backfire hard? He already touched Kovalev's shoulder, now he's acting childish - that's two strikes, which is one more than necessary for Kovalev to want to maim a foe. Pascal's dug his own grave here.
                    lol I thought about that too, by the time they get in there Kovalev is going to want to take his head off, every punch with be thrown with bad intentions.

                    Pascal is actually right to want testing, but he should've got it in writing when signing the contract.

                    Why doesn't he just say he's not fighting without testing and pull out if he feels this strongly about it, back up his talk with action.

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                    • MDPopescu
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Weebler I
                      No, I've already said they should test.



                      Postponed? If a fighter fails a test there's a good chance the fight never happens.

                      I'm just saying, I can understand it from the financial side. Nevertheless, I think they should test.

                      I'd take the risk, Pascal has passed testing before if they're confident in their own fighter they should go ahead.



                      Agreed, but Kovalev is not going to test if Duva tells him not to.

                      Duva has a point: there are no uniform rules regarding PED testing in pro boxing.
                      The ruling bodies and the state boxing commissions in the U.S. (in this case) do not provide a unified framework regarding, let's say, an olympic level drug testing...

                      ... But I would still like to see that high ranked pro boxers voluntarily follow the VADA procedure -- as Bradley does for instance...

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