Kovalen killed a man in the ring, what if he kills Pascal?

[emre belozoglu]

kovalev will be done and dusted by round 3

[vorgaphe]

I have no issue with him. But, I would expect killing someone in the ring would change you. Even make you retire from the sport. That is neither her nor there.

Since no one cares about the deaths of amateur or female boxers, I thought this example would be easier for people to care about. My point is, a very famous boxer recently killed someone. It is only a matter of time until this happens in a big fight televised in America.

It's insane to refuse this possibility. I just wonder how will boxing survive?

Many people momentarily thought Pac had been killed. Mayweather even joked about it. We all love boxing, yet how can it survive when this inevitable trauma occurs?

This is far less likely to happen in a huge fight over in the US because of the medical equipment available. In the video you can see that they don't have oxygen or neck braces. In a world title fight televised around the world you can be sure these will be available and paramedics will be ready.

Also as for the future of boxing, there have already been horrific life changing injuries in big fights. Benn - McClellan springs to mind and the sports has continued.

[Heavyfist]

Simakov didn't die in the ring, he died 3 days later. You should do a little research before you make a thread like this.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Kovalev_%28boxer%29

Why did he die if it was three days later? Because of Kovalev. So your distinction is meaningless, while my point remains.

The crowd did cheer while Kovalev killed him. It is not their fault, but it still happened. How can you not feel sickened by this scene? It is something out of Roman colloseum times, we are all cheering for blood, for the death and trauma of other fighters.

My point is, we should be honest. Its okay.

And again, boxers being crippled and killed happens all the time. Every year. But, it has not happened to a massive fighter in a massive fight in America any time recently. When it happens?

For ppl denying the oncoming death of a bigtime boxer.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/b...s-1575159.html

1953: The Ring Annual reported that 22 boxers had died as a result of injuries sustained during the year. This remains the highest figure since records were kept.

1962: Benny Paret died of brain injuries after losing to Emile Griffith in a world welterweight title fight.

1963: Davey Moore died after collapsing in his dressing-room after he was beaten by Ultiminio Ramos for the world featherweight title.

1964: Lyn James, from Pontypridd, died in hospital from a brain injury - the decade's first fatality in British boxing.

1969: Four days after a points defeat by Joe Bugner, Ulrich Regis died after surgery to remove a clot from his brain.

1972: Mick Pinkney choked on his own blood after a fifth-round knock- out by Jim Moore in Leeds. The inquest report said there was no sign of where the blood had come from.

1978: Angelo Jacopucci collapsed and died after fighting Alan Minter for the European middleweight title. European title fights were shortened to 12 rounds as a result.

1979: Willie Claasen died after he lost to Wilfred Scypion in New York. A few weeks earlier he had been knocked out in two rounds by British champion Tony Sibson.

1980: Lupe Pintor of Mexico beat the Welshman Johnny Owen for the WBC bantamweight title. Owen died six weeks later, having never regained consciousness.

1982: Young Ali (Asymin Mustapha) collapsed on the way out of the ring after being knocked out by Barry McGuigan in London. He lay in a coma for several months and died in December.

1982: Duk-koo Kim was carried from the ring in a coma after he was beaten by Ray Mancini for the WBA lightweight title. He died four days after the contest. Subsequently, world championship bouts were cut from 15 to 12 rounds.

1983: Kiko Bejines died of brain injuries after a defeat by Albert Davila for the WBC bantamweight title.

1985: Shawn Thomas died of head injuries suffered in a lightweight fight against Chris Calvin.

1985: Gerardo Derbez died of brain damage after being in a coma since being knocked out by Jorge Vaca.

1985: Jacob Morake died from head injuries received when he was knocked out by Brian Mitchell.

1986: The Scottish-born Steve Watt died of brain injuries after a defeat by Rocky Kelly in Fulham.

1987: Jean-Claude Vinci died half-an-hour after he was beaten on points by Lionel Jean.

1988: Daniel Thetele collapsed and died after losing to Aaron Williams.

1988: Brian Baronet, was in a coma for three days before dying after being knocked out by Kenny Vice.

1989: David Thio died 10 days after being knocked out by Terrence Ali.

1989: Rod Douglas, stopped by Herol Graham in a British middleweight title fight, underwent brain surgery to remove a clot.

1990: Patrick Stone died of a brain injury the day after beating Gary Wills.

1991: Michael Watson spent 38 days in a coma after being stopped by Chris Eubank. He is confined to a wheelchair.

1991: Clive Skwebe died nine days after being knocked out by Ndoda Mayenda.

1991: Patrick Diniso died after being knocked unconscious during a featherweight bout.

1991: Minoru Katsumata died after a 10th-round stoppage by Takashi Hurata.

1993: Yasuji Hamakawa died after being knocked down twice in one round.

1994: Wangila Napunyi collapsed after being stopped by David Gonzalez. He died after an operation to remove a blood clot from his brain.

1994: British bantamweight Bradley Stone died from a massive blood clot on the brain after losing to Richie Wenton.

1994: Michael Bentt was rushed to hospital and had to retire after his WBO heavyweight title defeat against Herbie Hide in London.

[Heavyfist]

This is far less likely to happen in a huge fight over in the US because of the medical equipment available. In the video you can see that they don't have oxygen or neck braces. In a world title fight televised around the world you can be sure these will be available and paramedics will be ready.

Also as for the future of boxing, there have already been horrific life changing injuries in big fights. Benn - McClellan springs to mind and the sports has continued.

Many people with the right medical equipment and the absolute best medical attention have still died from blood clots or from falling into comas. Medicine cannot always save these brave men.

The Benn fight was indeed a bit of a spot, but no one died, so it did not quite make the waves on main****** news. Also that fight was a British one, still a big deal.

I pose a question I had posed earlier, what if Pacquiao had never woken up after the JMM fight? I am sure boxing would be finished as we know it, in the States.

And, my other point is the callousness and the desire for boxers to kill their opponents. I think most of them would not mind killing their opponent. Mike Tyson said before a fight, if he doesn't kill his opponent, it doesn't count.

Martinez seemed happy to potentially cripple poor P. Williams. The only fighter to say we should not celebrate the KO of fighters so savagely is Andre Ward. Were Mexican horrified or happy at the sight of the lifeless body of Pacquiao? They were all cheering wildly at what looked like the death of a beloved icon.

[Hewito]

Many people with the right medical equipment and the absolute best medical attention have still died from blood clots or from falling into comas. Medicine cannot always save these brave men.

The Benn fight was indeed a bit of a spot, but no one died, so it did not quite make the waves on main****** news. Also that fight was a British one, still a big deal.

I pose a question I had posed earlier, what if Pacquiao had never woken up after the JMM fight? I am sure boxing would be finished as we know it, in the States.

And, my other point is the callousness and the desire for boxers to kill their opponents. I think most of them would not mind killing their opponent. Mike Tyson said before a fight, if he doesn't kill his opponent, it doesn't count.

Martinez seemed happy to potentially cripple poor P. Williams. The only fighter to say we should not celebrate the KO of fighters so savagely is Andre Ward. Were Mexican horrified or happy at the sight of the lifeless body of Pacquiao? They were all cheering wildly at what looked like the death of a beloved icon.

It is very tragic when someone dies or becomes handicap,but your arguments are very invalid.The number of people that have died in the ring comparing how many fights have taken place,the percentage is very low.This fighter choose the profession and its a very risky one.Boxing will not be banned nor will it be with headgears.I have one simple solution for you..Stop watching boxing and posting nonsense.You are somewhat calling Kovalev a murderer when he was doing his job..Very disrespectful and makes you sound like a douche....You are here trying to sound like a savior,but its the opposite.Did you watch the omar chavez fight?did you see the interviews?..very hard to watch but very real.The father of the boxer that died said,I dont have anything or ill feelings toward omar,its a job and part of the risks..If someone like him said that,what gives you the right to talk smack?

[Hewito]

Many people with the right medical equipment and the absolute best medical attention have still died from blood clots or from falling into comas. Medicine cannot always save these brave men.

The Benn fight was indeed a bit of a spot, but no one died, so it did not quite make the waves on main****** news. Also that fight was a British one, still a big deal.

I pose a question I had posed earlier, what if Pacquiao had never woken up after the JMM fight? I am sure boxing would be finished as we know it, in the States.

And, my other point is the callousness and the desire for boxers to kill their opponents. I think most of them would not mind killing their opponent. Mike Tyson said before a fight, if he doesn't kill his opponent, it doesn't count.

Martinez seemed happy to potentially cripple poor P. Williams. The only fighter to say we should not celebrate the KO of fighters so savagely is Andre Ward. Were Mexican horrified or happy at the sight of the lifeless body of Pacquiao? They were all cheering wildly at what looked like the death of a beloved icon.

And Andre ward says that because he hasnt ko anybody in years,what is he going to celebrate???

[The Hammer]

This guy was warned by THE REED for a similar thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=655030

We can look through Heavyfist's history and see he's made SEVERAL threads like this one in the past.

[ea22]

If you are afraid to see knockouts, then boxing is not for you, brutality is an inherent part of it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

This guy was warned by THE REED for a similar thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=655030

We can look through Heavyfist's history and see he's made SEVERAL threads like this one in the past.

How many times you going to try to indirectly snitch on him, f@ggot?

[The Hammer]

How many times you going to try to indirectly snitch on him, f@ggot?

Is Heavyfist your alt?