Is there a distinct lack of good boxing trainers?

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  • dan_cov
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    #1

    Is there a distinct lack of good boxing trainers?

    Everytime I tune in to a big fight all I hear is horrible advice. The last time I can recall a trainer giving good advice in the corner was Angel Garcia to Danny - End of round 2. I thought that was superb.

    Nathan Cleverlys dad almost got his son killed against Kovalev lol
    Tim Lane - No words here.
    Then we just had Don House? I heard this guy was a good trainer but in truth I've not heard of him before but what was he doing training Stiverne? He gave him no advise and waited until round 12 to tell him he needed to cut the ring off. Shocking! I just put his name into Google and it turns out hes a UFC cutman!

    The more boxing I see the more I think its whacky that training methods and such has evolved. Hardly any fighter these days can make a single adjustment or cut a ring off. Honestly how many top level guys can cut a ring off? How many are good combination punchers? All I see is bad technique. The same thing repeated.
    I probably come across a right grumpy ****er but I think its just I expect more from a supposedly world class fighter. Like is it that difficult to see hes doing the same thing and all you have to do is take a step to your right?
    It blows my mind almost. I can see why Eastern European boxing is doing so well, they have so much better schooling. They're not typically as flashy but more subtle. They've been taught the mechanics.

    Leo Santa Cruz - Hes good at parrying shots. Blocking, catching shots but there is no counters off of it. He don't move his head. He'll wait then throw a 5-6 punch combination with no placement or accuracy or even technique, just wide armpunches. This is a top level fighter? A two weight world champion. That is sad. He has a good engine but his punching technique is horrible, he isn't skilled.
    It seems to me there are so many what I'd class as European level fighters operating at todays 'world level' scene.

    I don't think its just the heavyweight division, I feel most divisions are truly lacking.

    Agree, disagree, what do you think?
  • SplitSecond
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    #2
    there was an interview sometime last year with roy jones stating just this, that america really doesn't have many good coaches anymore

    im sure he was more indepth about it but that's basically all i remember

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    • PK3434
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      #3
      yeah, Roy has said that a few times.

      But also, a lot of these trainers were journeymen professional boxers who can barely string sentences together correctly because of all of the brain damage. I barely ever hear good advice in between rounds, either.

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      • ThePunchingBag
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        #4
        I think all the good ones are in Europe.

        Steward (RIP) and Roach are the last of a dying breed of American boxing tutelage.

        One could make an argument for Virgil Hunter. I don't place a lot of stock in Robert Garcia as most of his fighters were already established when they came to his gym.

        Naazim needs more fighters other than BHop, I don't see him being top-tier.

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        • B-Bomber
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          #5
          I agree,

          check out this article


          Emanuel Steward's passing signaled the loss of yet another great coach in a sport desperate for more like him.

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          • AngelOfWallSt
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            #6
            There is a cesspool of Great trainers in Philly. I promise they will become mainstream as there is a few Philly prospects that will be taking huge step up soon. I've had the opportunity to see first hand some of the good trainers in the LA area as well. I love the advanced science training that seems to be prevalent in the Bay Area... I truely believe Philly gyms should get more exposure. I live in NJ, & frequently travel to LA. I realize most journalists that cover are stationed in California, but the Philly gym scene is something Special!!! California has the weather that attracts fighters & trainers alike. No one goes to cold ass Philly, but true to my Daughter the Philly boxing scene is on park or likely better...

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