Klitschko has been trashed for 10 years for doing what Wilder did last night!

[Pac=Duran]

Credit to Wilder. He beat a top heavyweight. I think he has elevated himself above the level of a hype job but I don't look forward to him holding the WBC Heavyweight belt hostage for the next year fighting bums.

Klitschko would beat Wilder easily on point I think though.

[Cutthroat]

? I didn't see Wilder holding his opponent illegally the majority of the fight, throwing his opponent to the ground, afraid to throw, etc.

Wilder is far more exciting than Grabimir. Please don't compare them.

[Elroy1]

Wilder, Fury and Jennings are definitely the easiest top heavies for Wladimir to beat. They are not as physically strong as the others.

Chris Arreola is still the toughest US boxer at this time.

Punch resistance is very important against Wladimir who will tag you often and hard the entire time.

[daggum]

wlad held 187 times against povetkin. i didn't see wilder hold at all so what exactly are you talking about? wlad held 47 times in 4 and a half rounds against pulev. wilder did this thing called boxing. ya know moving around, throwing punches, avoiding punches. he didn't throw a punch then hold or hold so his opponent couldn't throw a punch. it might have been boring but there's a difference between boring and cheating. wlad is a cheat. we all saw him hit the canvas a dozen times before he developed his holding game.

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Klitschko knocks out nearly all of his opponents.

[Crazylegs77]

Credit to Wilder. He beat a top heavyweight. I think he has elevated himself above the level of a hype job but I don't look forward to him holding the WBC Heavyweight belt hostage for the next year fighting bums.

Klitschko would beat Wilder easily on point I think though.

Jaaaaaaaaaabbbbb Squaaaaaaaaddd!!!

He didnt implement the leaning till the last round though, no holding either but he is still green, it will come in time. Anyway with all the pre fight talk many thought Wilder would go for broke but Im pretty sure Haymon had Wilders daughter held hostage with a gun to her head, Wilder you better win that belt fight safe.

[jas]

Was there one clinch in wilder vs stiverne???

Why are wlad fans crying ?

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Wilder didn't need to clinch with Stiverne much for the same reason Wlad didn't need to clinch with Leapai. If the guy is just standing there why bother?

Wlad finished his punching bag though

[CLUE]

No he's been trashed because people see and know what he is capable of, but he does not fight showing off the capability most times.

What Wilder can do is still up in the air. So of course people are not going to come down on him yet, for showing off other aspects of his fighting. On top of that there was barely any holding on his part.

[daggum]

Wilder didn't need to clinch with Stiverne much for the same reason Wlad didn't need to clinch with Leapai. If the guy is just standing there why bother?

Wlad finished his punching bag though

so you admit wlad needs to hold in his other fights in order to win. thank you for being honest.