Muhammad Ali vs Klitschko's opposition

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I was in the Ali beats everyone ever camp back when I was 11 and had only seen his 3 best fights.

Actually watching his career was quite a wake up call. Modern fighters have improved a lot.

Heavyweight is virtually always shallow compared to other divisions because there are only so many guys with the combination of size and skill and losing just 2-3 can thin out an era, but there's no doubt in my mind the '70s fighters would be embarrassed badly by modern fighters we currently consider barely average. They brag endlessly about Foreman beating barely-barely-barely-average Moorer.

[Elroy1]

Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Floyd Patterson, Ken Norton and Sonny Liston to name some of the Hall of famers that Ali beat. All those guys would have crushed Grabimir who can't even box for more than a minute of each round without clinching to preserve his horrible cardio and even worse chin.

Joe Frazier - A 1 dimensional, chinny, featherfisted, punch bag, half blind chubby dwarf. Who BEAT Ali in 2 or atleast 1 and a half fights.

Geroge Foreman - A 218lb "Plodder" with a strong punch. Today a 218lber with such a style would be laughable! Only the slickest boxers can compete with that weight today. Anyhow Geroge could barely even box and as much credit has to be given to Geroge for losing this fight as Ali for winning it!

Floyd Patterson- Possibly the weakest boxer ever to be called a champ in history. Look at him! He wouldn't last 5 seconds today!

Ken Norton- A glass jawed HW with no pedigree and a basically non-existent punch. A prolific bum buster and cruiser cruncher, makes Wilders resume look good. Still, beat Ali in all 3 fights realistically. Ali never really beat Norton.

Sonny Liston- One of the most prolific cherry pickers, bum busters and cruiser crunchers of all time. Never beat a decent opponent (Muhammad Ali never convincingly beat Liston either) Bummy skills, possibly the SLOWEST HW of all time!


And yet Wladimir hardly ever gets hit, hardly ever loses a round and beats the living crap out of every opponent and THIS^^^ is what you have to show me to HIGHLIGHT Ali's talent? Fights he got pasted in! Opponents who would never step foot in a professional boxing ring today!

Unbelievable!

[huh?]

Joe Frazier highlight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vUuXvAHlLQ

Alex Leapai highlight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocY93sjhOhU

Every imaginable stat shows Leapai is better than Frazier.

And the video comparison is conclusive, cannot be mistaken by ay woman or school child.

Considering Muhammad lost to and struggled with Frazier, the idea he could NOT get KOed by a Super-Frazier like Leapai- is a bit far fetched!

And obviously Muhammad Ali never once fought an opponent as big and strong as Pianeta. And the only ones who came closest were neither anywhere near as skilled or as conditioned! Despite Pianetas inflated record, it's still approximately 5x better than any Ali opponent.

And these guys are the WORST Klitschko opponents? That's good!

The objective reader knows how to separate fact from fiction.

Just remember we're comparing THIS...

http://3i26kd3p1usa3cefqi1ay96t13o6.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/frazier-ali.jpg

To bloody THIS...

http://2l7kr2xl4t7418ewd3w7ur01d2m.w...weigh-in-1.jpg

You're shamefully ignorant and I'm sad to be sharing oxygen with you. When you meet your maker, keep a low profile.

[Elroy1]

A fat gassing Sam Peter and Chris Arreola would be the dreadnought lords of any era.

Agreed.

They would knock the head off of any of those old guys.

Consider Chris..

Take George Foreman, paint him white, make him faster, give him real boxing skills, install a better gas tank and an even harder chin and THERE'S ya Chris Arreola!

Arreola has excellent gas! A 240lber who can **** hard and relentlessly for 12 rounds. Foreman at 220 gassed after 5 of such a pace!

[Elroy1]

You're shamefully ignorant and I'm sad to be sharing oxygen with you. When you meet your maker, keep a low profile.

Oh yeah, am I?

Please tell me where you think I have gone wrong?

I am pretty certain I have not ignored ANYTHING.

I make an assessment based on many lines of evidence including numbers and video and they all converge on the same thing that can be summed up simply...

If it READS like crap...

And it LOOKS like crap...

Then it MUST BE CRAP!

You try to polish turds and sell them as gold, and try to kick mud on gold to make it look like a turd.

Because of the 4 big reasons why you must (nationalism, racism, financial profit, social profit)