whats your take on fighters getting robbed of clear wins?

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  • El-blanco
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    #21
    Originally posted by brickcityboxing
    In most fights those 10 punches wouldn't count but in a fight where Canelo didn't land much more than 10 punches to the head TOTAL they make a difference as funny as it sounds ...
    Lol remind me never to watch that disaster again.

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    • boliodogs
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      #22
      To me my opinion is final. If I see a fight and I think a fighter won that fight then it goes down in my memory as a win for him forever. The judges scorecards mean nothing to me if I think they were wrong. I watch the fights carefully round by round and score them round by round and often rewatch them and rescore them. I will always have Pacquiao a winner of the first Bradley fight by many points and Matthysse a clear winner over Judah and Alexander and so on for any fight that I disagreed with the official decision.

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      • DannYankee
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        #23
        It's easy just tell em to get their head out their ass and stop bull****ting, and I rarely have to say such a thing because the only people who say that the robbed fighter lost are usually the fans of the other fighter, unbiased people see it the same way the non bribed judges of the world saw it. Thats why it's seen as a robbery or controversial cause everyone else with two eyes and their tongue not in the gifted boxers ass sees the truth.

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        • brickcityboxing
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          #24
          Originally posted by El-blanco
          Lol remind me never to watch that disaster again.
          Dude to be honest with you I watched it once live and once the next day hungover ... There isn't enough tea in china to make me sit through that **** again.

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          • jas
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            #25
            Actually what happened obviously

            Is this a serious question?

            You are asking hardcores not casuals

            You go by the majority public opinion

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            • brickcityboxing
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              #26
              I think boxing should take a page from the new battle rap format. They used to have judges at the big events, now they just let the guys spit, upload it to the internet and the within a day there is a general consensus as to who won... Obviously it wouldn't work for boxing given the amount of money at stake and how important a W or L is to their careers but in a perfect world it might work ...

              Or maybe get compete judges who won't take bribes...

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              • Tony Trick-Pony
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                #27
                Boxing records are funny. And they also never tell the whole story. This is the reason to actually watch the fights rather than take the record's word for it.

                I don't agree with it at all and the judges have been wrong many times. They are swayed. It is as simple as that. If a fight is close in a big-fight situation, they already know who they will go with. It's business and it's dirty.

                I think the boxing commissions would do well to fine a judge who clearly gives a horrible decision, but I don't see it happening. What sucks is that decades from now when people look at the past records, many won't watch the actual fights and take the records' word for it.

                But hey. Written history has plenty of flaws. Boxing is no exception.

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                • mick1303
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                  #28
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                  I thought Vernon Forrest won a rematch against Mayorga

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #29
                    The only people who say "the record book is the record book" are people with an agenda. Otherwise fans will always dispute robberies.

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                    • bojangles1987
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by brickcityboxing
                      Fine. But a hand needs to get raised and there is just no way a non biased person could really score that in Canelo's favor. I don't even think you could come up with a draw.

                      I was highly upset with Lara's performance and highly critical of it and while I won't say he deserved to lose based on it ... I feel like he knew what the stakes were and he had every opportunity to pull the trigger and he **** the bed.

                      That being said ... It wasn't a master class but it really was pretty clean cut. I land 2 or 3 clean punches you miss 4 or 5 hard punches ... I win the round.

                      The rounds Canelo won (2) were the most dominant of the fight,I'll give him that, but outside of those rounds ... He lost.
                      I thought it could go either way. Neither guy "won" the fight. Lara just happened to throw it away. Alvarez landed enough in enough rounds to where the decision could go his way, and those rounds were all ones where Lara did nothing.

                      But that one scorecard that had it one-sided for Alvarez made it pretty clear Lara never had a chance with the judges.

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