whats your take on fighters getting robbed of clear wins?

[mikinoki]

For example if someone says things like bradley beat pacquiao do you say no he didnt and debate it or you the type to say its in the books a win is a win. Do you go with the record books or with what actually happened in the ring? Give your take lets keep civil and lets talk boxing.

rematch or don't leave it in the hands of the judges...

[gamesworn]

Regarding to Topic.

I go what actually happened in the ring. Ill tell them to watch the fight again, turn down the volume to avoid bias commentators.

[El-blanco]

This was not a clear win to Marquez nor a robbery by Pacquiao. The fight was so close, that Draw was the best result here.

Ya I was hesitant to add that one in because it was close, I've seen it twice, I just don't see how it was a draw.

[gamesworn]

Ya I was hesitant to add that one in because it was close, I've seen it twice, I just don't see how it was a draw.

According to compubox, Pacquiao landed more punches than Marquez. It shows that Marquez was not dominating that fight to get a win.

I know compubox was not 100% reliable but tv cameras don't show all angles in fights too.

[brickcityboxing]

Lara beat Canelo... Period. I know a different set of rules applied to Lara in that fight and all of the sudden body/elbow shots were all of the sudden the standard in scoring fights ...

But let's be real ... An insanely popular Mexican fighter fought a Cuban fighter who couldn't match up... In terms of fans ... And fans only...

But the wrong hand got raised that night and it will always view that as a win for Lara.

^^^ now apply that to all the (real) robberies that we see and will continue to see in this sport... Just follow the money...

[El-blanco]

Lara beat Canelo... Period. I know a different set of rules applied to Lara in that fight and all of the sudden body/elbow shots were all of the sudden the standard in scoring fights ...

But let's be real ... An insanely popular Mexican fighter fought a Cuban fighter who couldn't match up... In terms of fans ... And fans only...

But the wrong hand got raised that night and it will always view that as a win for Lara.

^^^ now apply that to all the (real) robberies that we see and will continue to see in this sport... Just follow the money...

I strongly disagree man, really neither fighter did anything in that fight. The way Lara fought was a disgrace, 2 minutes of moving laterally and the occasional 1-2 is not enough to win a fight. It was not a robbery, at best it was a 7-5 win for him and that's really pushing it.

[brickcityboxing]

I strongly disagree man, really neither fighter did anything in that fight. The way Lara fought was a disgrace, 2 minutes of moving laterally and the occasional 1-2 is not enough to win a fight. It was not a robbery, at best it was a 7-5 win for him and that's really pushing it.

Fine. But a hand needs to get raised and there is just no way a non biased person could really score that in Canelo's favor. I don't even think you could come up with a draw.

I was highly upset with Lara's performance and highly critical of it and while I won't say he deserved to lose based on it ... I feel like he knew what the stakes were and he had every opportunity to pull the trigger and he **** the bed.

That being said ... It wasn't a master class but it really was pretty clean cut. I land 2 or 3 clean punches you miss 4 or 5 hard punches ... I win the round.

The rounds Canelo won (2) were the most dominant of the fight,I'll give him that, but outside of those rounds ... He lost.

[Beercules]

I strongly disagree man, really neither fighter did anything in that fight. The way Lara fought was a disgrace, 2 minutes of moving laterally and the occasional 1-2 is not enough to win a fight. It was not a robbery, at best it was a 7-5 win for him and that's really pushing it.

I get what you're saying that Lara moved a lot, but let's be real: why couldn't Canelo just cut off the ring? Angulo did it; why couldn't Nelo?


Lara lost that fight more than Canelo won it, if that makes sense. Lara actually did land 10 more punches than Canelo.

[El-blanco]

I get what you're saying that Lara moved a lot, but let's be real: why couldn't Canelo just cut off the ring? Angulo did it; why couldn't Nelo?


Lara lost that fight more than Canelo won it, if that makes sense. Lara actually did land 10 more punches than Canelo.

Because he's not very good lol I remember when he fought Alfonso Gomez a few years ago and in a few rounds gomez schooled him in close quarters and made him look really bad. Prior to that fight I thought canelo was the next big thing but after that I realized he wasn't anything special and his performances since then indicate that. Anyway, that fight with Lara was just brutal.

[brickcityboxing]

I get what you're saying that Lara moved a lot, but let's be real: why couldn't Canelo just cut off the ring? Angulo did it; why couldn't Nelo?


Lara lost that fight more than Canelo won it, if that makes sense. Lara actually did land 10 more punches than Canelo.

In most fights those 10 punches wouldn't count but in a fight where Canelo didn't land much more than 10 punches to the head TOTAL they make a difference as funny as it sounds ...