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  • Guys please think deeply before reacting to what this new article regarding these endless pac vs may negotiation talks; don't be like broner who got his ass served just recently--Please think before you speak!

    To analyze and put things to perspective.

    First things first, is Arum telling the truth? Then, how do we determine that this guy is most probably telling the truth or just lying?

    Well it's really not difficult, It's through his recent actions; please bear in mind, not to cling to the past and always focus your mind in the present evidence, or you'll just get lost in fact finding and you will end up confused. Do not let personal biasness eat you up.

    Okay, since recent actions are the determining factor: What are his recent actions that suggests he is telling a truth or telling a lie?

    Arum's actions that suggests he is telling the truth:

    *Makes the effort to personally talk to Leslie Moonves to make the fight happen.

    Supporting argument for this action: You don't friggin' fruck with Moonves by wasting his precious time talking something you don't mean it! To this big time guys, the old adage "Time is Gold" really applies. Floyd, Manny, Arum, Haymon and everyone on the current negotiating table are just a frigging piece of lint comparing to moonves status. Arum will not approach Moonves just to waste his frucking time negotiating with floyd without the real intention of making it happen. It doesn't frucking make sense.

    Remember: This super fight is almost accepted by fans that it's already dead, won't happen, can't happen, No No, NADA for whatever nonsensical reasons from both sides that has been repeated a million times that I'm too tired to repeat it myself. Okay, so if Arum don't want the super fight to happen--why in the hell would he speak to Moonves, when he got already got the result favorable on his side already, which is to secure manny not to fight floyd, and people have already calmed down and accepted the fact that it won't happen, WHY in the hell would Arum suddenly go to moonves and start this thing(pac vs may talks) all over again, if he doesn't want the fight to happen??

    "The sea has already calmed down, it's time to move on, why make it turbulent again?"

    So what can suggest that Arum might be telling a lie?

    *He does not approve that may vs pac should be held on May 2.

    Supporting argument for this action: Nobody is ordering anybody, this is just Arum's own personal opinion about May 2 date; --just like any opinion like for example on gay marriage, how and when to celebrate Christmas, religion to your liking and etc. etc.. I repeat nobody is ordering anybody, Arum just expressed his opinion about his take on May 2 fight date.

    If, in the end, Floyd wants to fight on May 2 anyway, then, he can have it, nobody would darn dare to stop it. What arum stated was just his own beliefs and personal opinion and not a personal gag order to stop the fight if it's on May 2 date. I repeat nobody is ordering anybody; --Biasness and lack of deep thinking has blown up this little thing.


    Conclusion: There's a clear evidence that Arum wants the fight, it's as simple as that.

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    • Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
      The last few fights you don't hear Floyd calling out nobody until the fight is signed. He did called out Pac on a Showtime fight card.

      If Floyd don't go thru this time he will take all the blame and shame that comes with it. Bob always negotiate thru the media.

      I'm staying positive that the fight will get made. We as fans will get cheated if it never happens.
      Nah nah nah... Don't try to rewrite history. Floyd was negotiating through the media as well with that showtime interview full of lies. "I..I...I been wanted dat fight." Yeah uh huh. Sure.

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      • Originally posted by krazyn8tive View Post
        Nah nah nah... Don't try to rewrite history. Floyd was negotiating through the media as well with that showtime interview full of lies. "I..I...I been wanted dat fight." Yeah uh huh. Sure.
        During negotiations he has talked about the contract?

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        • Originally posted by krazyn8tive View Post
          Nah nah nah... Don't try to rewrite history. Floyd was negotiating through the media as well with that showtime interview full of lies. "I..I...I been wanted dat fight." Yeah uh huh. Sure.
          You sound like the type that sees UFOs on lonely back roads .

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          • Originally posted by Carpe Diem View Post
            Floyd plays the "waiting game" with every opponents that he faces. Guys like Ortiz, Guerrero waited just as long as Mosley and Canelo did. If some of what Arum is saying is true, then he has every right to be a bit pissed off and impatient. Floyd needs to hurry up and make the announcement. There's no turning back now if the fight doesn't get made. I'm not even sure that the few hardcore fans he has left will stand by him if the fight doesn't happen next. He puts himself out there and did the interview, etc, he has nowhere to go, but to accept the fight or end up looking like the biggest contradicting fool ever and forever tarnish the last little positive rep he has left if he doesn't take the fight. He can't turn around and make a bull**** fight with anyone not named, Manny Pacquiao next.
            Maybe this is why


            Steve Kim@steveucnlive*The Haymon boxers/trainers know their next fights but have been given a gag order till certain announcements are made.#boxing

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            • Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
              The last few fights you don't hear Floyd calling out nobody until the fight is signed. He did called out Pac on a Showtime fight card.

              If Floyd don't go thru this time he will take all the blame and shame that comes with it. Bob always negotiate thru the media.

              I'm staying positive that the fight will get made. We as fans will get cheated if it never happens.
              I'm sorry about earlier. These groupies frustrate me. I do agree we as boxing fans would get robbed and made fun of by certain UFC fans. lol!
              These fools think I don't like Floyd but the truth is I really like Floyd. He's an amazing boxer and IMO an ATG. I do hate groupies I don't care if it's Floyd groupies or Pacquiao groupies or Cotto groupies. I can't stand them because for me they are the biggest problem in boxing. If we as fans stick together and hold fighters responsible. We would have way better fights. Not Danny Garcia vs Salsa and I was a huge Danny fan but I will call a spade a spade. If Mayweather fights Manny win or lose I will continue to be a fan. But if he ducks.....NO WAY!

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              • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                You sound like the type that sees UFOs on lonely back roads .
                And you have the nerve to call other peoples post childish. SMH!
                You're slime and I'm done with you.

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                • We know this about the nbc thing but maybe there is a gag on floyd too




                  Steve Kim@steveucnlive*The Haymon boxers/trainers know their next fights but have been given a gag order till certain announcements are made.#boxing

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                  • Originally posted by torosboxing75 View Post
                    I'm sorry about earlier. These groupies frustrate me. I do agree we as boxing fans would get robbed and made fun of by certain UFC fans. lol!
                    These fools think I don't like Floyd but the truth is I really like Floyd. He's an amazing boxer and IMO an ATG. I do hate groupies I don't care if it's Floyd groupies or Pacquiao groupies or Cotto groupies. I can't stand them because for me they are the biggest problem in boxing. If we as fans stick together and hold fighters responsible. We would have way better fights. Not Danny Garcia vs Salsa and I was a huge Danny fan but I will call a spade a spade. If Mayweather fights Manny win or lose I will continue to be a fan. But if he ducks.....NO WAY!
                    No need to apologize, we are having an healthy debate. If Floyds refuses the fight for a very weak excuse his legacy will be in serious trouble. His ego might make him really try to make this fight.

                    And yes some fanatics here can get annoying but they are still boxing fans

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                    • The Khan fight can happen in a later time and the only fans who are pushing for it to happen before the Pacquiao fight are fans who are just as delusional as Khan himself, but the Pacquiao can't wait any longer. It's been five years too late. If the report is true, I'm glad that Moonves is putting the pressure on Floyd to sign the fight, which mean they'll likely won't let Floyd pouts his way into making a ****ty fight that we don't want.

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