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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Stiverne: I'm Very Focused, I'm Going To Hurt That Kid

    By Lyle Fitzsimmons - When was the last time anyone really cared about heavyweights?

    After enjoying decades of transcendent champions like Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis, the latest generation of boxing fans has only known the Eastern European wrath of mammoth Ukrainian brothers menacingly nicknamed Drs. “Ironfist” and “Steelhammer.”

    That pair’s older sibling, Vitali Klitschko, retired as a two-time WBC champion after a 2012 stoppage of Manuel Charr became his 45th win in a 16-year career that included 41 knockouts and just two losses -- one due to a shoulder injury and the other to a ghastly eye cut.

    The younger, Wladimir Klitschko, remains in the midst of a reign that’s seen him hold two of the division’s five significant championship belts -- the IBF and IBO -- since 2006, while picking up two of the others, the WBA and WBO, during a subsequent 17-defense run.

    Just how dominant have they been, you ask?

    Even in an era of splintered title claims, for the 22 months prior to Vitali’s last appearance, not a single heavyweight championship fight was won by a fighter not named Klitschko.

    Additionally, at least one fighter named Klitschko has held at least one of the five shares of the heavyweight title for 139 of a possible 174 months since Vitali captured the WBO crown in June 1999.

    To put it another way, that’s 11 1/2 of the last 14 1/2 years.

    But if Bermane Stiverne has anything to say about it, the conversation is about to change. [Click Here To Read More]
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    I have been very confident that Stiverne will win this fight. I was ready to place my bet on Stiverne until this past Friday on FNF Teddy Atlas said that he believes Wilder would knock out Stiverne in one round. I was stunned that Teddy had this outlook on this match up. Teddy is usually right (by usually I mean around 90% of the time he seems to get it right). I still feel like Stiverne is money in this fight but now I am hesitant.

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    • El-blanco
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      #3
      Originally posted by thatboyelite
      I have been very confident that Stiverne will win this fight. I was ready to place my bet on Stiverne until this past Friday on FNF Teddy Atlas said that he believes Wilder would knock out Stiverne in one round. I was stunned that Teddy had this outlook on this match up. Teddy is usually right (by usually I mean around 90% of the time he seems to get it right). I still feel like Stiverne is money in this fight but now I am hesitant.
      What was Teddy's reasoning for thinking he'll crush him? I hope he's right, stiverne is a ****.

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      • MDPopescu
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        ... Wilder's and Stiverne's best opponents were Malik Scott and Chris Arreola, respectively.
        I don't know if Stiverne is proficient in clinching and hugging -- if not, Wilder will dispatch him very, very early.

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        • bhayes21151
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          u have a 90% knockout ratio vs a 100 % knockout ratio, bottom line as my man Jack said studderingly in "Harlem Nights" "somebody ggggggeeeetting knock ttthe fff****out"

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          • Ulver
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            #6
            Originally posted by thatboyelite
            I have been very confident that Stiverne will win this fight. I was ready to place my bet on Stiverne until this past Friday on FNF Teddy Atlas said that he believes Wilder would knock out Stiverne in one round. I was stunned that Teddy had this outlook on this match up. Teddy is usually right (by usually I mean around 90% of the time he seems to get it right). I still feel like Stiverne is money in this fight but now I am hesitant.
            Errrrr, Teddy Atlas is wrong quite often. He's picked just about everybody to beat Wladimir, who he hates with irrational passion. And he's been wrong every time.

            You'd be better off betting against whatever Atlas says -- he knows ****-all about boxing for a guy who's been around it all his life. He really did great with Povetkin, eh? Povetkin is only now recovering from what Atlas did to his confidence.

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            • Ulver
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              Originally posted by MDPopescu
              ... Wilder's and Stiverne's best opponents were Malik Scott and Chris Arreola, respectively.
              I don't know if Stiverne is proficient in clinching and hugging -- if not, Wilder will dispatch him very, very early.
              Malik Scott took a dive for his self-described "very good buddy."

              Hell, even Jason Gavern was too big a step up for Wilder -- Gavern just quit because he was so out of shape. But Wilder was confused by him.

              Stiverne is going to slip one of those telegraphed right hands and pop Wilder right on the chin. Then we'll see how tough that American ****wipe is.

              I think Charlie Zelenoff KOs Wilder in the rematch.

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              • kafoab
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                I think Wilder will win Stiverne nearly got knocked by Arreola i think he can win with that reach

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ulver
                  Malik Scott took a dive for his self-described "very good buddy."

                  Hell, even Jason Gavern was too big a step up for Wilder -- Gavern just quit because he was so out of shape. But Wilder was confused by him.

                  Stiverne is going to slip one of those telegraphed right hands and pop Wilder right on the chin. Then we'll see how tough that American ****wipe is.

                  I think Charlie Zelenoff KOs Wilder in the rematch.
                  Very likely... In fact I didn't see that straight right eventually landing on Scott... The commentators rather focused on the left hook which caught Scott's ear first and was supposed to wobble him...

                  Well, nevermind: we'll all find out "the truth" on Saturday.

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                  • bigjavi973
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                    Originally posted by El-blanco
                    What was Teddy's reasoning for thinking he'll crush him? I hope he's right, stiverne is a ****.
                    Stiverne has a very bad habit of laying on the ropes looking to counter. Problem is that he doesn't move his upper body enough. Good example is the horrible stoppage on him on the fight that he "lost". He wasn't fighting back and the ref thought he was hurt. But its not the first time stiverne does that. He did it as well in both the areola fights. IMHO the only way stiverne wins if he goes "mike tyson style", with lots of head movement and staying on the inside.

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