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  • tjones1989
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    #21
    What if someone breaks out the nun chucks, will the boxer win then?

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      #22
      Originally posted by 80sFighter
      Do you use Wing Chun principles when you do hilarious poses and make silly noises before the fight?
      No, I use Wing Chun when in very close proximity. Wing Chun principles are more effective at infighting than Traditional boxing principles.

      Boxing is better in the mid-range.

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        #23
        I like the fact that the guy kept it real in saying his style of fighting isn't all that practical against a boxer. There is a lot of folklore surrounding western fighting styles (not sure of the correct term) and someone who doesn't know any better believes Bruce Lee would've beaten anyone who has ever walked the earth and as a result people who know about combat sports call them on that. I think there is a middle ground. While I know the average persons expectations of western fighting styles are greatly exaggerated I also wouldn't go as far to say they are "garbage" and that their technique can just be swept under the rug as "Hollywood bs", their style can be applicable under the right circumstances and if tweaked can even be effective. Props to the wing chiun dude, props for the post.

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        • Larry the boss
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          #24
          Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
          They simply master a certain set of principles, but when you define yourself with a specific style you are also confined by it.

          Real fighting is too erratic. Mastering a style doesn't mean **** in a real fight if the concepts and principles associated with that style don't apply to real combat situations.

          I practice wing chun, muay thai, boxing, jiu jitsu. I use whatever works and discard what is inefficient. Being a strict "boxer" in a real fight makes you predictable and therefore vulnerable. I use boxing principles when I throw punches, Muay Thai concepts when I kick, Jiu Jitsu principles when I grapple.
          you really repeated what i said..lol

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            #25
            Originally posted by 80sFighter
            boxing vs wrestling vs bjj is kind of a fun debate

            boxing vs wing chun isn't very interesting because wing chun isn't real

            but I've noticed some people on this website are years behind the curve when it comes to "that **** isn't real"
            This is 100 percent a lie..Boxing even has Wing chun in it..Parrying is Wing Chun

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              #26
              Originally posted by brickcityboxing
              I like the fact that the guy kept it real in saying his style of fighting isn't all that practical against a boxer. There is a lot of folklore surrounding western fighting styles (not sure of the correct term) and someone who doesn't know any better believes Bruce Lee would've beaten anyone who has ever walked the earth and as a result people who know about combat sports call them on that. I think there is a middle ground. While I know the average persons expectations of western fighting styles are greatly exaggerated I also wouldn't go as far to say they are "garbage" and that their technique can just be swept under the rug as "Hollywood bs", their style can be applicable under the right circumstances and if tweaked can even be effective. Props to the wing chiun dude, props for the post.
              The irony being that Bruce Lee said numerous times that boxing/wrestling was real fighting and that the stuff he did was mostly just art/tradition.

              But the people who worship him like to forget this ever happened and spend their wasted lives buying "Learn Death Kicks in Under 4 Hours" ebooks for kindle.

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                #27
                I always notice people laugh at martial arts that they are ignorant too...this is my you see posters calling MMA "GAY" and "UNSKILLED" the ground game and trying to establish position takes a huge amount of skill and stamina..Fighting properly is a science not a brute act

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by LarryXXX
                  This is 100 percent a lie..Boxing even has Wing chun in it..Parrying is Wing Chun
                  Everything has "parrying" in it, unless there's a martial art out there that recommends letting someone punch you then running in the opposite direction before falling over and advises against defense. Zab Judo.

                  We would need a more specific than practically universal basic parrying concepts to determine that the unique aspects of Wing Chun are good for much of anything.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by LarryXXX
                    I always notice people laugh at martial arts that they are ignorant too...this is my you see posters calling MMA "GAY" and "UNSKILLED" the ground game and trying to establish position takes a huge amount of skill and stamina..Fighting properly is a science not a brute act
                    BEcause the various schools of Kung Fu have done so well in MMA.

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                    • brickcityboxing
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 80sFighter
                      The irony being that Bruce Lee said numerous times that boxing/wrestling was real fighting and that the stuff he did was mostly just art/tradition.

                      But the people who worship him like to forget this ever happened and spend their wasted lives buying "Learn Death Kicks in Under 4 Hours" ebooks for kindle.
                      I've had (otherwise) smart people ask me "do you think a Tyson or a "bones" Jones could take Bruce Lee in a fight?".

                      I would try to explain to them that Bruce Lee was (for all intents and purposes) just an actor and had never accomplished anything as a professional fighter ... And Jones and Tyson were (almost literally) twice his size and would crush him. I'd even pull up quotes from Lee himself regarding a (potential) fight between him and Ali ...

                      None of that was enough to sway them. A lot of people believe in the "one inch punch" "the five finger death ... Whatever" and the fact that Bruce Lee "split a heavy bag in half with a single kick"... Crazy ****...

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