Golden Boy Promotions Stable After Al Haymon Split

[Scipio2009]

Canelo's deal was until the end of 2014. Oscar didn't renege on anything.


I agree, but having Canelo is a pretty big pull.


There are very few promoters that can promote major events successfully. Lets say Haymon stops doing business with GBP. Top Rank won't work with them and neither will Roc Nation. Those "6" promotional outfits are probably small time and have no recent experience putting on big cards.



I said "up to $50 mill". The number wasn't released so no one knows. Do you have proof that it was "no where near" or is that just speculation?

Espinoza, from the stink that he put up when the HBO deal was announced, seemed to have believed different.

Beyond that, the infrastructure that was the "nuts and bolts" of Golden Boy Promotions, the setup that's allowed them to put on the major events successfully, has already been stripped from the company.

David Iskowitz, former COO, is now with Roc Nation, Bruce Binkow, former COO, is now with Mayweather Promotions, and Richard Schaefer is officially done with the company, in addition to the slew of folks that resigned with Schaefer. The talent is available to handle the logistics outside of Top Rank and Golden Boy, now anyway

[Scipio2009]

Haymon would need to put on more than 20 cards per year in order to showcase all his fighters. Dont see how this is possible.

10-12 SHO Championship Boxing telecasts, another 15 or so ShoBox shows, however the rumored 20 NBC Sports and 4 NBC telecasts break down, 2-5 possible PPV events, and then you've got at least another 20-30 FNF telecasts.

Haymon's not going to secure every single one of those shows, but I don't see securing dates being much of a problem.

[Scipio2009]

Haymon is a gangster, he took all gbp fighters and is now using shotime until he starts his own thing

If the NBC experiment works (with Haymon apparently putting up his own money to test things out), there's going to be a bidding war between CBS/CBS Sports/Showtime, NBC/NBC Sports, Fox/Fox Sports 1 and ABC/ESPN to secure a broadcasting rights deal for Haymon Boxing.

People forget that the UFC, if the rumored figures are true, walked away with a 7 year, $750m broadcast rights deal from Fox.

[Scipio2009]

Doesn't matter cause Oscar and Bob will do business together and there's lots of good fights to be made then.

like what?

Outside of Canelo-Cotto, and maybe Pacquiao-Sadam Ali, what fights are there really?

[Wizardsh]

they ahve a solid stable, haymon a fad all the ******* boys who went over there went for teh easy fights and hopefully big money they gonna learn fast someone has to lose motherfucker, so look to the left or the right then look at yourself cause one of you mother****ers are gonna be the sacrificial lamb to the make shift star of your division/

Pretty much this

[Check_hooks]

Espinoza, from the stink that he put up when the HBO deal was announced, seemed to have believed different.

Beyond that, the infrastructure that was the "nuts and bolts" of Golden Boy Promotions, the setup that's allowed them to put on the major events successfully, has already been stripped from the company.

David Iskowitz, former COO, is now with Roc Nation, Bruce Binkow, former COO, is now with Mayweather Promotions, and Richard Schaefer is officially done with the company, in addition to the slew of folks that resigned with Schaefer. The talent is available to handle the logistics outside of Top Rank and Golden Boy, now anyway

Espinoza doesn't have a choice. Haymon is focusing on NBC. Top Rank is loyal to HBO. But we will see.

Those guys that you named were sabotaging GBP from the inside. Its gonna take some time to replace them but it had to be done and they will be better off. Fans tune in to see the fighters not the C-Level execs

The question I have is who does GBP have to scout young talent? Top Rank is the best at finding and building superstars. GBP has only made one fighter a legit superstar and that was Canelo and even he hasn't done huge PPV numbers yet.

And good point you bought up about the deal UFC got with Fox. That is what Haymon is after. I doubt it'll be the 7 year $700 million cuz UFC has a monoploy on MMA in the US while boxing is a Oligarchy

[LouIE G]

like what?

Outside of Canelo-Cotto, and maybe Pacquiao-Sadam Ali, what fights are there really?

You are one ****** poster, i must say!! Instead of focusing too hard on being a troll, maybe you should focus on learning boxing!

[KillerJones]

Espinoza doesn't have a choice. Haymon is focusing on NBC. Top Rank is loyal to HBO. But we will see.

Those guys that you named were sabotaging GBP from the inside. Its gonna take some time to replace them but it had to be done and they will be better off. Fans tune in to see the fighters not the C-Level execs

The question I have is who does GBP have to scout young talent? Top Rank is the best at finding and building superstars. GBP has only made one fighter a legit superstar and that was Canelo and even he hasn't done huge PPV numbers yet.

And good point you bought up about the deal UFC got with Fox. That is what Haymon is after. I doubt it'll be the 7 year $700 million cuz UFC has a monoploy on MMA in the US while boxing is a Oligarchy

Yea, and I don't think the NBC Haymon fights are going to be that great and competitive. I could be wrong. But boxers usually have options. From time to time, they are forced into fights, but the top boxers can duck anyone.

MMA fighters are used like chess pieces which is why it works so well. Take a Haymon fighter like Danny Garcia for example, is he ever going to take another competitive fight in his career? I doubt it. All the Haymon fighters have this attitude.

I have a feeling this whole venture is going to flop. That fighters are going to want to come back to premium cable, where there is far more money for boxers. Most fights are simply not appealing to casuals. I watched an MMA fight once, and it was like 7 fights in total? Every fight but one, ened in a KO within the first round, no a tap out. Boxing sure as **** is not going to provide that. To even stand a chance, Haymon is going to have to put Maidan vs Garcia, type fights on, and that will never happen.

Also what will be interesting is, how are these Haymon fighters going to fight in the near future?

[cactusEG]

I hope Golden boy doesn't go to the **** after this. They were out topping top rank !

[Foreign Soil]

Schaefer should be thrown in jail for double cross dressing Oscar.