Rock bigger than Toney!!!!!!!!!!

[Kid Achilles]

Tyson's biting off Holyfield's ear is not excusable but to his credit he had been provoked by Holyfield's headbutting and he did apologize in the end.

Toney threatened to shoot his own manager, Jackie Kallen, during a live interview which in my opinion is worse than anything Tyson has ever said in terms of threats. When Tyson makes threats it's usually understood to be some kind of outburst, he's blowing off steam. What Toney did was really crossing the line however.

Besides all the wrongdoings that Tyson has commited, he was almost always respectful towards his fallen opponents after a fight. Toney shows no such respect. Maybe he's never bitten off an ear but somehow his ****y behavior is worse to me. The way he talks to reporters, saying "g'day mate" in an australian accent when addressing a british reporter. The sombrero gag during the Ruiz press conference. There's something about it all that screams "I'm an ignorant fool and proud of it!"

I'll take Tyson any day over Toney as a person and a fighter.

[!!Captain]

He's 237.

Vs Guinn, he was 235 and was throwing on average 80 punches a round through the championship rounds.

Rahman is not Guinn, I think he'll be putting a lot more pressure on Toney.

[Bozo_no no]

Tyson's biting off Holyfield's ear is not excusable but to his credit he had been provoked by Holyfield's headbutting and he did apologize in the end.

Toney threatened to shoot his own manager, Jackie Kallen, during a live interview which in my opinion is worse than anything Tyson has ever said in terms of threats. When Tyson makes threats it's usually understood to be some kind of outburst, he's blowing off steam. What Toney did was really crossing the line however.

Besides all the wrongdoings that Tyson has commited, he was almost always respectful towards his fallen opponents after a fight. Toney shows no such respect. Maybe he's never bitten off an ear but somehow his ****y behavior is worse to me. The way he talks to reporters, saying "g'day mate" in an australian accent when addressing a british reporter. The sombrero gag during the Ruiz press conference. There's something about it all that screams "I'm an ignorant fool and proud of it!"

I'll take Tyson any day over Toney as a person and a fighter.

He's a convicted rapist, has bit a piece of someoene's ear off in the ring, has sucker punched and bitten people at press conferences, has been in physical altercations with fans and cameramen, and said things that makes anything Toney's said seem like pillow talk.

I can't believe what you just wrote and are trying to sell.

Come off it.

Tyson makes Toney look like the Church Lady.

[Bozo_no no]

Rahman is not Guinn, I think he'll be putting a lot more pressure on Toney.

Have you seen the two fight?

Guinn averages way more punches thrown per round than Rahman. He's a much busier fighter.

Rahman putting pressure on Toney is exactly what he shouldn't do.

Using his jab to establish distance and to stay away. That's Rock's best chance.

[Derranged]

He's a convicted rapist, has bit a piece of someoene's ear off in the ring, has sucker punched and bitten people at press conferences, has been in physical altercations with fans and cameramen, and said things that makes anything Toney's said seem like pillow talk.

I can't believe what you just wrote and are trying to sell.

Come off it.

Tyson makes Toney look like the Church Lady.

There is a difference though Bozo. Im not so sure Tyson can help it very much, he undoubtedly has some serious psychological problems. Toney consistently and willfully acts like a jerk and is clearly not crazy. Unless Toney is a psychopath but I doubt it.

[!!Captain]

Have you seen the two fight?

Guinn averages way more punches thrown per round than Rahman. He's a much busier fighter.

Rahman putting pressure on Toney is exactly what he shouldn't do.

Using his jab to establish distance and to stay away. That's Rock's best chance.

Yes, I've seen Guinn/Toney and was really impressed by Toney in that fight. Of course, that is really diminished by the fact that Guinn had 3 losses, 1 draw, and 2 wins in his last 6 fights. Rock's best chance is one big right hand, he can't outbox Toney and he knows it. I don't think he'll stay away.

[Bozo_no no]

Yes, I've seen Guinn/Toney and was really impressed by Toney in that fight. Of course, that is really diminished by the fact that Guinn had 3 losses, 1 draw, and 2 wins in his last 6 fights. Rock's best chance is one big right hand, he can't outbox Toney and he knows it. I don't think he'll stay away.

Trying to land a big right hand on Toney is a ****** idea. It's by far the most difficult shot to land on him.

Rock has height and reach to his advantage, and has a good jab.

His best chance is to use that reach, stick the jab, and not try to mix it up. If he does, he plays right into Toney's strengths.

[!!Captain]

Trying to land a big right hand on Toney is a ****** idea. It's by far the most difficult shot to land on him.

Rock has height and reach to his advantage, and has a good jab.

His best chance is to use that reach, stick the jab, and not try to mix it up. If he does, he plays right into Toney's strengths.

You think he'll be able to outbox Toney?

[Bozo_no no]

There is a difference though Bozo. Im not so sure Tyson can help it very much, he undoubtedly has some serious psychological problems. Toney consistently and willfully acts like a jerk and is clearly not crazy. Unless Toney is a psychopath but I doubt it.

The bottom line is that boxing is the hurt business, and everyone watching it is looking for Violence.

It attracts and cultivates the attitudes of guys like Tyson, who can be looked upon as the bad guy.

Toney has a big ego, and plays up disrespect for his opponents. That helps to sell fights, and helps him to get up for them mentally.

[Bozo_no no]

You think he'll be able to outbox Toney?

Not at all, but that's really his best chance. If he looks to stand and trade he's going to get beaten down and taken apart.

The best way to nullify what Toney does best is to stay away from him, not come to him.

Rahman has looked his best in the last five years in the first 6 rounds of the Tua fight when he was throwing 60 jabs a round. He was out of gas after that, but that was really the best he's looked since the one punch wonder.

He doesn't have a very good chance in this fight any way you look at it (barring a shocker), but coming to Toney and trying to hurt him is a particularly worse plan than others at his disposal.