Rock bigger than Toney!!!!!!!!!!

[Kid Achilles]

I'll ask a similar question to you oldgringo, have you ever met Tyson? How do you form your opinions of Tyson if you haven't met him?

No I haven't met Tyson or Toney but having seen and read many interviews with both of them I can say that I respect Tyson more. When Tyson goes off on people I usually see a motive behind it. With Toney he appears to do it for the hell of it. It's drama for the sake of drama. I see Tyson as more sincere, just venting his inner frustrations whereas Toney is trying to get a rise out of people.

[oldgringo]

I'll ask a similar question to you oldgringo, have you ever met Tyson? How do you form your opinions of Tyson if you haven't met him?

No I haven't met Tyson or Toney but having seen and read many interviews with both of them I can say that I respect Tyson more. When Tyson goes off on people I usually see a motive behind it. With Toney he appears to do it for the hell of it. It's drama for the sake of drama. I see Tyson as more sincere, just venting his inner frustrations whereas Toney is trying to get a rise out of people.

Difference being Toney hasn't bitten off someone's ear after previously being convicted of ****. Don't play the "Tyson is a scarred individual so he deserves a break" angle on me now achilles.

So what was Tysons motive for saying he won't speak with women because he doesn't want to speak with someone he wants to fornicate with? Add sexist to the list of assholish personality traits? I just don't see how you're still trying to play it up like Toney is a bad guy. You have never met him, he hasn't committed any crimes, you simply can't stand him for personal reasons. That's cool and all, but quit with the **** about him being some ******* in real life when you've never met him or anything...

The crazy thing is...I find most of the **** Tyson has said in his interviews hilarious as pretty much everyone else has. It's just not reasonable trying to make Toney out to be the scum of the earth for coming into a fight in non-aesthetically pleasing shape.

[Kid Achilles]

I'll take the occasional sexist or outright psychotic comment over incessant trash talking, coming to fight looking like ****, and in general being a classless punk. Tyson's said some ****ty things and he's acted like a nut, but he's also done some great things too like donate money towards Kid Gavilan's grave, proven his sportsmanship against defeated opponents on a regular basis, and given credit to Lewis after receiving a huge ass whupping by the man's hands.

If Toney loses this fight, you know there won't be a shred of class in his reaction, just excuses and further disrespect.

If you go by the lowest of their lows, maybe Tyson comes off looking like the monster, but Toney is consistently a punk whereas Tyson elevates himself to something classy, admirable, and even likeable every now and then. With Toney I never see that.

[SnoopySmurf]

I know styles make fights but I still get get passed how Holyfield was able to handle Rahman. I can't even get passed Ruiz, with as little boxing skills he has, was able to fight Rahman his style of fight.

Toney will likely have his way with Rahman, just as over the hill Holyfield and the clinching Ruiz was able to handle Rahman.

[Bozo_no no]

No I haven't met Tyson or Toney but having seen and read many interviews with both of them I can say that I respect Tyson more. When Tyson goes off on people I usually see a motive behind it. With Toney he appears to do it for the hell of it. It's drama for the sake of drama. I see Tyson as more sincere, just venting his inner frustrations whereas Toney is trying to get a rise out of people.

Would you drop it already? You've shot yourself in the foot acting all high and mighty talking about your disgust with Toney when you then turn around and try to justify Tyson's actions and popularity.

It's foolish. Tyson's a criminal, and has done many malicious physical acts towards his opponents, bystanders, and women.

You don't like Toney. Just say it and leave it at that.

Don't try to justify it with a self defeating ignorant line of logic.

[keystone30pack]

I'll take the occasional sexist or outright psychotic comment over incessant trash talking, coming to fight looking like ****, and in general being a classless punk. Tyson's said some ****ty things and he's acted like a nut, but he's also done some great things too like donate money towards Kid Gavilan's grave, proven his sportsmanship against defeated opponents on a regular basis, and given credit to Lewis after receiving a huge ass whupping by the man's hands.

If Toney loses this fight, you know there won't be a shred of class in his reaction, just excuses and further disrespect.

If you go by the lowest of their lows, maybe Tyson comes off looking like the monster, but Toney is consistently a punk whereas Tyson elevates himself to something classy, admirable, and even likeable every now and then. With Toney I never see that.

i've had floaters give up their argument and flush down the bowl quicker than your incessant rimming of tyson's anus while you compliment him through your teeth.."youth arth ath greath perthonth mikth"

[paul750]

Thats the best shape i've ever seen Rahman in, this fight could be very interesting.

[paul750]

i've had floaters give up their argument and flush down the bowl quicker than your incessant rimming of tyson's anus while you compliment him through your teeth.."youth arth ath greath perthonth mikth"

I'm not trying to defend achilles, but he's certainly not a fan of Tyson, i can say that much.

[the_truth_1984]

Rahman is bigger because he is a full grown hw not a middleweight turned heavyweight by countless buffets.

[Torino]

Rahman looks like a powerful bull, Toney some bald cornerman with a gut. Maybe even the guy who carries the spit bucket.

Still have to favor Toney but he doesn't bear a passing resemblance to an athlete. The only definition on his body is the six pack of oscar mayer weiners on the back of his neck.

Seriously, the lack of pride he takes in his health and fitness is an embarrassment to his sport. Garbage in, garbage out, as it is often said. An athlete cannot succeed forever eating and abusing his body like Toney does.

If there's any justice in the world, Rahman knocks him out in the name of work ethic and for the good of boxing. Toney is a nasty, hateful guy who disrespects everyone in the sport, including himself, with the lousy shape he's showed up in.

I could care less about disrespecting Toney because he shows no respect for anyone else on the planet. A man like that is undeserving of honor and is owed nothing by anyone.

If Toney is interested in getting in shape and giving the sport his all, than good for him. If he can learn some humility and respect for others, I am all ready to be a fan. The way he is now though, and at 37 years old he probably won't change, **** him.

Great post KA. I agree with everything. The saddest thing about it all IMO - is that he's a role model and some kids emulate his disrespecting ways and think it's cool. I'd love to be a fan of Toney but everytime he opens his mouth his verbal **** storm ruins what he's done in the ring. Some people even worship Toney for his lack of class. He can't retire early enough IMO and I hope rock kicks his ass.