Comments Thread For: Hunter: Pacquiao Not Reinvented, Mayweather Beats Him

[Realizniguhnit]

Am I the only one that thinks this fight has sailed way past it's expiry date? Sure it's still an intriguing match up but all I see happening after it's over is excuses, either which way. We are now talking about a 38yo Floyd Mayweather and 36yo Manny Pacquiao facing each other, both have regressed physically from when the fight was suppose to occur a 7 whole years ago now! and the buzz for the fight as far as the fans is concerned also seems to have subsided dramatically... The fighters will be over paid, and they want us to over pay for what will be a rather dull fight imo, Floyd is not going to engage with Pacquiao, he going to outbox him to a UD will Pacquiao lands a few occasional OOOzz and AAAhhhs fight while be boring just like the hyped up De La Hoya vs Mayweather was....

[Strategic1]

This. The reason why Floyd don't want to fight Manny. He is not the conventional fighter you can study and learn all of his weaknesses right away. Marquez took 4 fights to Manny just to perfectly launch his attack and ko him.

Yep. and Floyd historically has given up a round or 2 while he solves his opponent.

Against PAC, it might take him a bit longer to even get his timing ...Instead of 1 or 2 rounds...he might give up a few more if he can't time PAC. And after that, it could be anyone's fight from there.

That's how I see it.
I predict PAC will take 4 of the 1st 6 rounds. Activity will win PAC rounds while Floyd tries to time him.

Then it'd be interesting to see how Floyd fights coming from behind in the fight. I think he might take a few of the middle rounds. But having the fight very close will result in Floyd taking more chances. And thus getting tagged by Pac's left crosses.

I think it'd be close. Close enough to warrant a rematch.

[Robbie Barrett]

This. The reason why Floyd don't want to fight Manny. He is not the conventional fighter you can study and learn all of his weaknesses right away. Marquez took 4 fights to Manny just to perfectly launch his attack and ko him.

Who won the most rounds in the first fight? The 2nd and 3rd fight were close fights that either could have won.

[g-wane]

When has pacquiao been known to wear down in the middle rounds? Lol he's known for his crazy stamina. And hes also completely wrong hes alot different after the Marquez ko. He alot more careful and respects his opponents power a little more. Mayweather will be forced to go into a turtle shell the whole fight while pacquiao bombs away on him with combinations. Pacquiao by unanimous decision

you're crazy.. Floyd always finds a way to land his shots, set traps and maneuver fighters into his punches. This is just what Hunter was talking about, if pac or his fans think that pac will just walk in and walk over, He could easily find himself lying face down sleep holding his **** AGAIN! second Pac style is a young man style and he is no longer young, this style is failing him, which is why he has not faced any other power hitter after getting KOed.

[MRCHOKEaMF]

Arum alibi is weak... Trainers opinion doesn't count if Floyd has doubts on his mind that he will lose to Pacquiao. I'm waiting for Floyd to agree to fight Pacquiao on May 2 no more excuses. I will no longer watch any Floyd fight if he will not fight Pacquiao on May 2. Showtime will not be very happy to Floyd if another excuses shows up.

Arum said no and Floyd gave the date pac said he agrees to whatever Floyd is asking. Ariza said it was Arum, Roach said Arum, Pac's personal attorney said he believes, its Arum. So after that many people that are that close to the situation says Arum, im gonna have to put some weight into what people that are that close to the situation says. Now you guys that claim to know what others are thinking and whats on their mind, are a little shaky. As a former pro athlete, NO Pro BOXER really believes ANYONE in the history of boxing can beat them, just as sugar ray leonard spoke about. You guys really dont know professional athletes. I've met many pro boxers and been friends to quite a few and NOT ONE. Believes they would lose to any other boxer past or present if they are on their game, and all of them believe they are always on their game. So to think Floyd, who has never lost to anyone in his pro career, never even contemplates losing to anyone. So dont ever think a boxer has doubts about beating ANYONE or you sound like a neophyte.

[g-wane]

Yep. and Floyd historically has given up a round or 2 while he solves his opponent.

Against PAC, it might take him a bit longer to even get his timing ...Instead of 1 or 2 rounds...he might give up a few more if he can't time PAC. And after that, it could be anyone's fight from there.

That's how I see it.
I predict PAC will take 4 of the 1st 6 rounds. Activity will win PAC rounds while Floyd tries to time him.

Then it'd be interesting to see how Floyd fights coming from behind in the fight. I think he might take a few of the middle rounds. But having the fight very close will result in Floyd taking more chances. And thus getting tagged by Pac's left crosses.

I think it'd be close. Close enough to warrant a rematch.

You mean like he was behind after 4 rounds with Zab, Mosley, Maidana .. Being behind in a fight is not new to Floyd adjustment is the name of his game.. He knows how to keep the round close.

[Bigg Rigg]

Then later on in the day he tries to convince us that Khan has a shot to beat Floyd. Lol most overrated trainer of the last 10 yrs right here ladies and gentleman.

[Real Talk85]

Yep. and Floyd historically has given up a round or 2 while he solves his opponent.

Against PAC, it might take him a bit longer to even get his timing ...Instead of 1 or 2 rounds...he might give up a few more if he can't time PAC. And after that, it could be anyone's fight from there.

That's how I see it.
I predict PAC will take 4 of the 1st 6 rounds. Activity will win PAC rounds while Floyd tries to time him.

Then it'd be interesting to see how Floyd fights coming from behind in the fight. I think he might take a few of the middle rounds. But having the fight very close will result in Floyd taking more chances. And thus getting tagged by Pac's left crosses.


I think it'd be close. Close enough to warrant a rematch.

Nice assesment, I would disagree on one thing. I think Floyd wins by a wide margin. I have two reasons for this point of view.

The first is that Manny has crap fundamentals. When he throws shots he leaps off of his feet at his opponent. He does this every time without fail. No one he has fought outside of Marquez punishes him for this. Floyd would punish him every time, its basically giving up a free shot at him every time he leaves his feet. Why in the world they don't train to correct this is beyond me but it is a massive liability against a counter puncher like Floyd.

The second reason I believe Floyd wins by a large margin is because Manny won't get enough chances to land. Floyd simply does not throw enough punches for Manny to get him to mix it up. Floyd will pick his spots while Manny chases him missing and missing as Floyd potshots him backing up. If Manny was as rough as Hatton and could press on Floyd then its a different story, but he doesn't fight like that.

That's my two cents, but you know as well as I do this is boxing. Anything can happen, I mean did anyone ever think Tyson would try and eat Holy field's ear?

[straightleft]

Considering the bulk of his competition it's unlikely Manny was ever really tested.

He is physically more powerful and faster than everyone he has fought with the exception of Margarito, and Clottey. Neither of which did anything of note, one of them simply covered up and stood there. The other was chasing shadows all fight long.

If Manny would have had to face the same campaign as Floyd at 154 we would know how he responds to pressure. Floyd fought game champions at 154 and gave up a ton of weight and power to his opponent and still didn't fold. Even when they tried to bully him around the ring.

Lets see Manny go to 154 and fight a champion, or fight any full fledged WW champion and you will know what he is made of.

Pac a former champion at 112. Can't you realized how many big men he fought along the way? Floyd was a champ at 154 but then why he weight drained another 154 champ like Canelo. Now you know what your boy is made of.

[Strategic1]

You mean like he was behind after 4 rounds with Zab, Mosley, Maidana .. Being behind in a fight is not new to Floyd adjustment is the name of his game.. He knows how to keep the round close.

Zab, maidana, and a past prime mosley are a level below PAC... not to mention PAC's activity, stamina, and intensity won't let up if they fight.

If this fight happens, expect something extra from both Floyd and PAC. They'll be motivated...