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  • iloveboxing2
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    #71
    I agree with you 100% but Floyd will use Plan D, U, C &K. Very effective! Best plan is plan G,O! on May 2

    Originally posted by `STEELHEAD
    i consider floyd as one of the most intelligent boxers alive. he'll have a
    plan A, B, C and Z.

    floyd by decision over pacman.

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    • Ray*
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      #72
      Originally posted by Fetta
      Floyd dominates everyone so i hope hes right. But i dont think this fight lives up to hype.
      The fight would definitely not live up to the hype, we already had 4 years of this hype and unless Pac KD Mayweather or some type of Mosley-Mayweather round 2 stuff happens I don't how this fight would live up to the hype.

      Mayweather would give Pac so much respect that Pac wouldn't be able to get a lot of shots in, he would jab, turn him and potshot him to a boring UD. At the end of the day he would called a runner and how this is NOT the sweet science.

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      • megas30
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        #73
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        It was a Judah right hook actually and it was more balance than anything.

        I think a Judah/Pacquiao comparison is silly. Both are fast and are lefties? I guess. Whitaker and Pacquiao are both fast lefties and they fight nothing alike. We need to analyze a little deeper than that methinks.

        I like Tarver's assessment and I don't think he's far off at all. Pacquiao is fast, powerful, crafty and has experience in big fights. He is Mayweather's biggest test. I think this fight looks a lot like Pacquiao-Morales I, which was a very underrated scrap. I watched that again recently and suggest everyone do the same. Very telling bout. Maybe Floyd wins a wider decision but it'll be interesting to see how he counters Pacquiao's bursts of punches, if he can at all.
        I don't see Floyd fighting range, where Manny's wild flurries will be a problem. Watch the first 2 rds of Bradley vs Pac 2. This is exactly how I see the fight playing out. Tyson vs lewis also comes to mind. The range will be Pac"s killer. Pac might have some moments, too. Maybe a sneaky left here and there. Even tall fighters like Guerrero was having problem with the range with which Mayweather fights. Heck, even Canelo. Give Pac range and he will reach in then get off balance. Intelligent fighters such as Floyd will capitlaiize on this as did Marquez.

        I do want to see this fight, because I feel ppl will be disappointed to how it plays out. Algeria didn't mix his movements on Pac, nor changed angles, so Pac was able to time him moving in the same direction (to Pac's right) at the same speed, with no head movements. Floyd will not do this. Floyd will use footwork to change angles, mix his punches and confuse Pac. Pac will be easy to time, because, regardless of what people think, he punches in angles, but doesn't move in angles; he moves in a straight line forward, feinting from side to side, and have this tendency of jumping backwards with his hands down.

        The thing about Pac is this he's built up through PR to be this monster, ala Mike Tyson, so many fighters were intimidated once in the ring with him. Marquez and Mayweather are two of the most patient and discipline fighters of the sport and prove so with their superior counter punching; they make you make mistakes and make you pay for it. Pac hates that style and likes a fire fight. We see his frustration when fighters (mosley and Bradley) slow the pace of the fight. Times he baited Marquez into fire fights and was where he had his successes, doubt he will be able to bait Floyd into this. Moreover, i do believe this is their **team pac) game plan, and where they think they might be victorious, hence, why Pac's camp is always taking shots at Floyd's boxing style, saying he doesn't go toe to toe.

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        • DadeCounty305
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          #74
          Originally posted by Ray*
          This fight would not be a test for Mayweather at all, this would be like Lewis-tua, Barrera-Naz where the boxer would have sooo much respect for the power guy and it would just turn into a jab, move and don't get close to me sort of fight. People would be disappointed when they see how this fight goes.
          LMMFAO! You're comparing the GREAT Manny to Tua and Naz. Smh. It's ok to be a May fanboy but you can be real. Manny outworks May. May 24 punches a round to Manny's 60+. Oh yeah, Manny is a southpaw with speed and power. Manny quick feet and movement is a problem for May. If it was so easy for May, he wouldn't made so many roadblocks for NOT fighting Manny. Think about it. It's clear bro!

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          • Reloaded
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            #75
            Originally posted by megas30
            I don't see Floyd fighting range, where Manny's wild flurries will be a problem. Watch the first 2 rds of Bradley vs Pac 2. This is exactly how I see the fight playing out. Tyson vs lewis also comes to mind. The range will be Pac"s killer. Pac might have some moments, too. Maybe a sneaky left here and there. Even tall fighters like Guerrero was having problem with the range with which Mayweather fights. Heck, even Canelo. Give Pac range and he will reach in then get off balance. Intelligent fighters such as Floyd will capitlaiize on this as did Marquez.

            I do want to see this fight, because I feel ppl will be disappointed to how it plays out. Algeria didn't mix his movements on Pac, nor changed angles, so Pac was able to time him moving in the same direction (to Pac's right) at the same speed, with no head movements. Floyd will not do this. Floyd will use footwork to change angles, mix his punches and confuse Pac. Pac will be easy to time, because, regardless of what people think, he punches in angles, but doesn't move in angles; he moves in a straight line forward, feinting from side to side, and have this tendency of jumping backwards with his hands down.

            The thing about Pac is this he's built up through PR to be this monster, ala Mike Tyson, so many fighters were intimidated once in the ring with him. Marquez and Mayweather are two of the most patient and discipline fighters of the sport and prove so with their superior counter punching; they make you make mistakes and make you pay for it. Pac hates that style and likes a fire fight. We see his frustration when fighters (mosley and Bradley) slow the pace of the fight. Times he baited Marquez into fire fights and was where he had his successes, doubt he will be able to bait Floyd into this. Moreover, i do believe this is their **team pac) game plan, and where they think they might be victorious, hence, why Pac's camp is always taking shots at Floyd's boxing style, saying he doesn't go toe to toe.
            Floyds range is so long that when he is boxing the opponent never gets set , thats why bum rushers like Hatton and Maidana appeared to have success only Floyds inside game is great also , he will school Manny .

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              #76
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              Floyds range is so long that when he is boxing the opponent never gets set , thats why bum rushers like Hatton and Maidana appeared to have success only Floyds inside game is great also , he will school Manny .
              So what are you saying, Floyd will keep Manny at bay with his jab and movement? You are not accounting for Manny southpaw stance and CONSTANT movement as well. Manny will not be a stationary target, when Floyd first opens up we will see who is faster.

              Their styles are polar opposites and made to fight each other. Father time as caught up to both, odds are as even as it gets IMO.

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              • Brassangel
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                #77
                In 2009? Yes, Pacquiao could have tested, and probably beaten Mayweather. Manny was an unstoppable buzzsaw of speed, precision, stamina, and power. His footwork would have allowed him to employ all of it.

                Now, Manny is a step slower, a touch more gun shy, and heading towards retirement. I think Mayweather will make it a 1-punch-at-a-time snooze-fest to get a boring and easy 12 round decision.

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                  #78
                  Fair assessment. A few years ago, I could have seen it playing out this way. Now, I think Floyd will cower, get bastardized, and then run...to finish the fight alive!

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                  • DadeCounty305
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by chardrnm
                    Mayweather will not win if he will gonna potshot and go on a shell against Pacquiao. He needs to be a combination counter puncher that will eat punches from Pacquiao to win. He needs to punch with Pacquiao when Pacquiao is doing his combinations a perfectly timed counter from Marquez happened because he already invested his face to get hit so he can counter Pacquiao who at the moment going for the kill.
                    If you look at the video of that perfect KO, you'll see Manny tripped over JMM left foot as he was going in. Manny had no chance while the perfect punch was being thrown. Perfect timing for JMM.

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                    • DadeCounty305
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Brassangel
                      In 2009? Yes, Pacquiao could have tested, and probably beaten Mayweather. Manny was an unstoppable buzzsaw of speed, precision, stamina, and power. His footwork would have allowed him to employ all of it.

                      Now, Manny is a step slower, a touch more gun shy, and heading towards retirement. I think Mayweather will make it a 1-punch-at-a-time snooze-fest to get a boring and easy 12 round decision.
                      LMAO... Really! Manny footwork is still great. That's his defense. Tim Bradley said that. Manny throws too many punches and he's a southpaw. Manny is no El Chino, Canelo, Ortiz, Robert or Shane.

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