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  • Skip Bayless
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    #11
    nope. pascal gasses badly and steveson with his range and power will get him out of there. very similar style fighters though, both from roy jones school of boxing

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    • Showtime..
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      #12
      Originally posted by BigAlexSand
      Against weak Darnell Boone. Exactly why Kovalev will end this fools Career.
      Boone isn't a scrub, but I get your point.

      Pascal is a better fighter/boxer overall, but I think that Stevenson, down on nearly every card, would stop him in the mid-later rounds with a big shot. Even if they rematched, I would pick Stevenson by KO. Pascal just can't cut it IMO against someone like Stevenson or Kovalev. I do think that he beats Hopkins if they fight again.

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      • VatoMulatto
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        #13
        Originally posted by PorterIsFuture
        Boone isn't a scrub, but I get your point.

        Pascal is a better fighter/boxer overall, but I think that Stevenson, down on nearly every card, would stop him in the mid-later rounds with a big shot. Even if they rematched, I would pick Stevenson by KO. Pascal just can't cut it IMO against someone like Stevenson or Kovalev. I do think that he beats Hopkins if they fight again.

        Pascal never been KO'd. He can take a punch and has lots of heart. The only way I see Stevenson win is by KO but I don't think that will be the case. Pascal has a better chance to stop Stevenson. Pascal's explosive attacks would trouble Stevenson big time and Pascal has most likely the better chin. Pascal wins this fight.

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        • HEND
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          #14
          I don't see why Pascal would be a better fighter. He is talented but somethig is missng from him, he is a 4-5 rounder fighter. His chin is better than Stevenson's but other than that I can't give him the edge in anything else. Stevenson has better stamina, bigger power, even more explosive and they are equaly fast imo. So I think Stevenson would win by UD or RTD.
          And Don't be ridiculous, their amateurfight was like over a decade ago, you really want to bring up that as a logical foundation? smh...
          I think most of the poeple who actually think Pascal is better just mad at Stevenson and blinded by their hatred. Or if Pascal is so much better than Adnis then why most of the boxing fans would choose Stevenson-Kovalev matchup instead of Pascal-Kovalev? And don't come with "cause they want to see Stevenson get KTFO" because even one and a half year ago (when the Stevensn hating wasn't that high) people rather wanted to see Stevenson vs Kovalev not Kovalev vs Pascal.

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          • Weebler I
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            #15
            Originally posted by VatoMulatto
            Why do so many people think Stevenson is a better fighter than Pascal?
            Because this is what happens when a fighter is allowed to cherrypick soft opposition. As long as they don't lose, they get rated above the guys who fight the best and take an L somewhere along the way.

            It's messed up, but that's the idiocy of boxing.

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              #16
              Originally posted by BigAlexSand
              Against weak Darnell Boone. Exactly why Kovalev will end this fools Career.
              weak? darnell boone may not be world class but he certainly isnt weak. he is very durable and extremely dangerous in his own right. the only difference between what boone did to stevenson in their first fight and what he did t kovalev in theirs is the ref allowed kovalev to continue when he beat the count on wobbly legs. resulting in kovalev going on to win a split decision while stevenson was stopped. on top of that stevenson finished boone in much more devastating and conclusive fashion in their respective rematches,

              finally lets keep in mind the different paths they took to get where they are currently at. kovalev came into the pro ranks on the heels of a long and successful amateur career competing for the russian national team at the highest level for many years.

              stevenson got out of jail and started fighting for a buck, later realizing his talent and acting on it. he had a brief amateur career and then turned pro, leaving much of his learning to take place in the paid ranks. the first boone wa s alearning experience, a lesson kovalev had already learned years ago as an amateur when he got knocked out.

              once under the tutelage of the great emanuel steward stevenson became a good fighter fast but before that he was merely a diamond in the rough. first couple of times i watched stevenson i was thoroughly unimpressed, he isnt that guy any more though. if you think the TKO loss to darnell boone means something going forward that means one of three things.

              either you havent watched stevenson early and is simply talking out of your ass, you dont know boxing and cant recognize the leaps he has made in ability or you are so biased towards kovalev you will twist anything to say he would knock stevenson out.

              i too favor kovalev if they fight, slightly. but not because of a fight a different man took part in several years ago. but i guess its like with the people who are still picking agaisnt floyd every fight based on the first castillo fight wellover 10 years ago. if the hate is strong enough..

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              • Foreign Soil
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                #17
                Why are people so easily picking Pascal to be KO'd? When has he come close to being knocked out?

                Pascal vs Aducknis, I slightly favor Pascal as he's more tested and has less of a sense of vulnerability about him and has shown a degree of craftiness throughout his career. Aducknis is more of a one-trick pony and can't really handle a dog fight but if he's allowed to work his one-dimension he's good. I think the fight would either be Pascal by stoppage or Aducknis by decision.

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                • HEND
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Weebler I
                  Because this is what happens when a fighter is allowed to cherrypick soft opposition. As long as they don't lose, they get rated above the guys who fight the best and take an L somewhere along the way.

                  It's messed up, but that's the idiocy of boxing.
                  Like Stevenson didn't ktfo Dawson in the first round...
                  Ring magazine, boxrec, boxingscene, fiGhTnews (why the fuck I can't write this down in it's normal form, without bold letters? The fuck is wrong with this site...?!) All must be dumbs cause they rate Stevenson higher than Pascal.
                  You can accuse Stevenson by cherry picking because the Fonfara and Shukotsky fights but before that nobody said that Cloud or Bellew would considered to be cherry picks but currently Stevenson is very hated and even his opponents who weren't considered as cherry picks then, now turned into cherry picks too.

                  It's messed up, but that's the idiocy of boxing.

                  You can hate him, but give the man his credit for God's sake! Rofl at some people hate this guy so much that they try very hard to take away his real credit too. I imagine what wuld happen here if Stevenson vs Kovalev would happen finally and Stevenson would KO Kovalev. Half of the posters would commit suicide and an other big precentage of them would change their nickname.
                  Last edited by HEND; 01-11-2015, 07:27 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HEND
                    Or if Pascal is so much better than Adnis then why most of the boxing fans would choose Stevenson-Kovalev matchup instead of Pascal-Kovalev?
                    Because it's two huge punchers and Stevenson holds the WBC and lineal title.

                    I'd pick Pascal over Stevenson, and it comes down to Stevenson's chin, age and one-handedness.

                    Originally posted by HEND
                    Ring magazine, boxrec, boxingscene, *********... All must be dumbs cause they rate Stevenson higher than Pascal.
                    They also rate Cotto higher than Golovkin...they're locked into the top spot because they won the lineal title. Again, the idiocy of boxing.
                    Last edited by Weebler I; 01-11-2015, 07:29 AM.

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                    • HEND
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Weebler I
                      Because it's two huge punchers and Stevenson holds the WBC and lineal title.

                      I'd pick Pascal over Stevenson, and it comes down to Stevenson's chin, age and one-handedness.
                      His age? He is still more explosive and evely fast as Pascal and has clearly better stamina so I think he is even better than Pascal in things what could affect his age.

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