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  • Realizniguhnit
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    #31
    Originally posted by VG_Addict
    Who do you think would win?
    I'm just not sure. My thing is it depends on what Floyd shows up, u know. The Floyd that goes back and fights off the ropes against Maidana and Cotto? IMO that Floyd get's his azz whipped by Khan TBH. A Floyd that will counter and time Khan in the center of the ring schools Khan. My question is can Floyd still do that at 38? Not so sure. These past few fights Floyd hasn't been staying the the middle of the ring consistently, tells me the legs getting a little heavy now..we have to remember Floyd will be 38. Things can change over night at this age, testosterone begins declining at age 30.
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    • g-wane
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      #32
      Originally posted by Weebler I
      Then explain how a lot of very good fighters failed to manage it.
      Yeah they manage to wobble Kahn every chance they get or beat him.

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        #33
        Originally posted by g-wane
        Yeah they manage to wobble Kahn every chance they get or beat him.
        Khan's not at 140 no more. At first I thought Khan might have just been making excuses and BS'ing also, but looking at his history every time he's moved up in weight initially, he has been more durable and really didn't lose any speed. Then I see pictures of him walking around at about 180 pounds lol, tells me Khan probably was really draining himself and had been a welterweight all along at 5'10. People act like Devon didn't land any punches, when actually he landed quite a few good ones, didn't effect the 160 pound Khan at all.....Khan probably should have moved up after the Peterson fight like he intended..Khan was huge in that fight, he was never the same at 140 after...
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          #34
          Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
          I'm just not sure. My thing is it depends on what Floyd shows up, u know. The Floyd that goes back and fights off the ropes against Maidana and Cotto? IMO that Floyd get's his azz whipped by Khan TBH. A Floyd that will counter and time Khan in the center of the ring schools Khan. My question is can Floyd still do that at 38? Not so sure. These past few fights Floyd hasn't been staying the the middle of the ring consistently, tells me the legs getting a little heavy now..we have to remember Floyd will be 38. Things can change over night at this age, testosterone begins declining at age 30.
          I guess the saying holds true "if you say it long enough people will begin to believe you" Khan has all of the physical gifts in the world, but there is a thing called negotiations, press conferences, training camp, and the fight! now between all of these events or phases Floyd messes with your head(during negotiations and press conferences) see the anticipation makes you burn out. Khan will be dropping an interview or a sound bite every week leading up to the fight. Khan fought a good fight against Devon, but Devon is easy to take out of his game plan - Tim Bradley / Shawn Porter / Amir Khan - Devon can be taken out of his comfort zone and seems to ignore Cunningham when the going gets tough for him - Floyd makes in round adjustments and inbetween round adjustments! Remember boxing is also a very mental game and we all know Khan has a low boxing iQ - Floyd fought Canelo 3 fights ago and he used his legs and out boxed him - everyone that has beaten Khan did not use their legs to do so - they capitalized off his mistakes the same way Mayweather will. History always repeats itself if you do not look in the mirror and force change - That Change comes from within and not from a new trainer - Khan is a very eager person - look at how anxious he is for this fight, every other day there is a quote or an interview concerning his wants, that is all I need to know, he is the same guy with the same character flaws - against Floyd you have to outsmart him, make him walk into something, not out box the best boxer in the game - Tommy Hearns never got outboxed ! Khan doesn't have the make up - Manny / Maidana / Thurman / Cotto - these guys have that make up - You need to attack, pressure, punch him all over the place etc to beat this guyn ot no fancy footwork and fast hands - if you guys have not noticed Floyd and Bhop are the masters at controlling violence in the ring - if they do not want to fight or engage, there will be no fighting until they are ready - Maidana wasn't going for it nor was Cotto. but Canelo and Guerero where all for it - big difference !!! oh yeah Vernon forest was a master boxer, but it took a master Brawler to beat him back to back in Ricardo Mayorga - a similar fighter to Marcos Maidana etc.....etc...

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            #35
            Originally posted by parrish duke
            I guess the saying holds true "if you say it long enough people will begin to believe you" Khan has all of the physical gifts in the world, but there is a thing called negotiations, press conferences, training camp, and the fight! now between all of these events or phases Floyd messes with your head(during negotiations and press conferences) see the anticipation makes you burn out. Khan will be dropping an interview or a sound bite every week leading up to the fight. Khan fought a good fight against Devon, but Devon is easy to take out of his game plan - Tim Bradley / Shawn Porter / Amir Khan - Devon can be taken out of his comfort zone and seems to ignore Cunningham when the going gets tough for him - Floyd makes in round adjustments and inbetween round adjustments! Remember boxing is also a very mental game and we all know Khan has a low boxing iQ - Floyd fought Canelo 3 fights ago and he used his legs and out boxed him - everyone that has beaten Khan did not use their legs to do so - they capitalized off his mistakes the same way Mayweather will. History always repeats itself if you do not look in the mirror and force change - That Change comes from within and not from a new trainer - Khan is a very eager person - look at how anxious he is for this fight, every other day there is a quote or an interview concerning his wants, that is all I need to know, he is the same guy with the same character flaws - against Floyd you have to outsmart him, make him walk into something, not out box the best boxer in the game - Tommy Hearns never got outboxed ! Khan doesn't have the make up - Manny / Maidana / Thurman / Cotto - these guys have that make up - You need to attack, pressure, punch him all over the place etc to beat this guyn ot no fancy footwork and fast hands - if you guys have not noticed Floyd and Bhop are the masters at controlling violence in the ring - if they do not want to fight or engage, there will be no fighting until they are ready - Maidana wasn't going for it nor was Cotto. but Canelo and Guerero where all for it - big difference !!! oh yeah Vernon forest was a master boxer, but it took a master Brawler to beat him back to back in Ricardo Mayorga - a similar fighter to Marcos Maidana etc.....etc...
            See people always talk about what one has done 3 fights ago, but we don't live in the past we live in the present, Canelo is no where near as quick and doesn't have the footwork Khan has, not that Khan could go up to 154 and beat him, but styles make fights at the end of the day. No one can get around the fact that Floyd is going on 38 while Khan is a prime 28. The world saw Floyd's last 2 fights, and he didn't look invincible against Maidana he actually looked vulnerable and IMO the reason he did fight him twice which was clearly unnecessary was to see just how much he was slipping. Lately we have seen Khan improving and Mayweather declining and whining quite frankly.. Like I said still a Floyd fan but clearly Floyd is trying to cash out and wants no part in a risky fight like Khan who will threaten his 0 on activity and punch output alone...I don't know who would win but as I look at most of the options out there Khan is by far Floyd's biggest threat. He's not flat footed and short like all the guys Floyd's been fighting lately that have to have their feet set to throw a punch...he doesn't have the IQ but is agile and quick just like Floyd, that presents problems for a 38 yo a few years ago, Floyd wins hands down, it's going on 2015 now. times changing
            Last edited by Realizniguhnit; 12-29-2014, 05:59 PM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Szef
              I know you were joking but what you just said is true.

              I don't want to insult the guy, but Khan doesn't strike me as a very smart person .It's clear as day that Floyd is using him as some kind of leverage agaist Pac:

              "WINK If you won't agree to my terms, i'll fight this guy instead WINK"

              Floyd is manipulating Khan, it's very not cool for a professional boxer to **** with other boxer's career and life like this.

              Khan should just say "**** Off" and fight Brook instead.
              Mayweather stated clearly that he is not interested in Amir Khan and that he is focused on securing a fight with Pacquiao. Amir Khan is definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer but he isn't being led on either. At least not by Mayweather. Maybe all of these different journalists that keep tossing him queries about Mayweather are helping pump up his head but he is doing this to himself for the most part.

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                #37
                Spent 30 seconds trying to understand the train tracks thing....then I remembered spending 30 seconds watching Boresly fight is a total waste of time, but 30 seconds listening to his brain damaged words of wisdumb is a waste of life. Beat it, Shame. Ped Cheater.

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                • Realizniguhnit
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by peplz
                  Mayweather stated clearly that he is not interested in Amir Khan and that he is focused on securing a fight with Pacquiao. Amir Khan is definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer but he isn't being led on either. At least not by Mayweather. Maybe all of these different journalists that keep tossing him queries about Mayweather are helping pump up his head but he is doing this to himself for the most part.
                  All n all a few years ago I think Floyd would of been glad to take Khan on had he not loss, but now after a couple solid wins at 147 I think Floyd is a little nervous about risking his 0 against a guy like Khan....I don't see him fighting no Pacquiao in May, just buying time to find another "credible opponent" like Cotto 2, when in reality, it's Khan. lol unless he wants to fight Brook.

                  u don't just go from saying Khan needs a couple solid wins at 147 and I'll give him a shot to "well, Khan only did 4,000 the other night"
                  Last edited by Realizniguhnit; 12-29-2014, 06:11 PM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
                    See people always talk about what one has done 3 fights ago, but we don't live in the past we live in the present, Canelo is no where near as quick and doesn't have the footwork Khan has, not that Khan could go up to 154 and beat him, but styles make fights at the end of the day. No one can get around the fact that Floyd is going on 38 while Khan is a prime 28. The world saw Floyd's last 2 fights, and he didn't look invincible against Maidana he actually looked vulnerable and IMO the reason he did fight him twice which was clearly unnecessary was to see just how much he was slipping. Lately we have seen Khan improving and Mayweather declining and whining quite frankly.. Like I said still a Floyd fan but clearly Floyd is trying to cash out and wants no part in a risky fight like Khan who will threaten his 0 on activity and punch output alone...I don't know who would win but as I look at most of the options out there Khan is by far Floyd's biggest threat. He's not flat footed and short like all the guys Floyd's been fighting lately that have to have their feet set to throw a punch...he doesn't have the IQ but is agile and quick just like Floyd, that presents problems for a 38 yo a few years ago, Floyd wins hands down, it's going on 2015 now. times changing
                    Khan almost got knocked out by Maidana. He was running around the ring on spaghetti legs in the 10th round of that fight. And Maidana fought a much better and a much dirtier fight against Mayweather and didn't even come close to knocking him out. You say Floyd was whining but you don't mention the fact that he was low blowed, rabbit punched, kicked, bitten, tackled and body slammed in both fights. In the first fight there was a referee that allowed it to happen without even a warning. Maidana was extremely dirty. Not just a little. So in that context claiming that Mayweather was whining takes on a different light. Mayweather beat Maidana twice in a row against the odds after the best win of Maidana's career. I'd say those two fights prove just how good he really is, not the opposite

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
                      All n all a few years ago I think Floyd would of been glad to take Khan on had he not loss, but now after a couple solid wins at 147 I think Floyd is a little nervous about risking his 0 against a guy like Khan....I don't see him fighting no Pacquiao in May, just buying time to find another "credible opponent" like Cotto 2, when in reality, it's Khan. lol unless he wants to fight Brook.

                      u don't just go from saying Khan needs a couple solid wins at 147 and I'll give him a shot to "well, Khan only did 4,000 the other night"
                      Khan made some dumb decisions in the quest for the Mayweather sweepstakes and he only has himself to blame for that. Everytime Khan's name is mentioned in context with Mayweather's it makes fans and media members mad. Khan is not seen as a viable opponent. If Pacquiao refuses to fight in May its not Mayweather's fault but this is the fight that he wants to make and the one the public wants to see.

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