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  • #41
    Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth View Post
    Why is Fitzsimmons going by some numbers from a British non-biased entity (as he puts it) to compare Kovalev and Stevenson.

    We're juss making fun of Quackenson because Kovalev is beating the guys he has called out or tried negotiating with while Quackenson avoids Kovalev even after Kovalev beats these guys. (Granted Kova beats Pascal)

    For fucks sake theyre talking about Stevenson-Fonfara 2 and Stevenson can't even say he wants to fight Kovalev without pissing himself.
    Wow. You really showed up and proved pretty much everything written in this article to be correct and that you are one of the people that the article is talking about; all the way down to the ****** nicknames. Just wow... Hopefully it was on purpose.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by peplz View Post
      Wow. You really showed up and proved pretty much everything written in this article to be correct and that you are one of the people that the article is talking about; all the way down to the ****** nicknames. Just wow... Hopefully it was on purpose.
      No I definitely know Fitzsimmons is talking about people like me, but if he thinks I'm idiotic for judging Stevenson on his career for what it is, then so be it. If you agree with him in thinking that I'm just some lame-o who can't call boxing then . Just read and listen to Stevenson, this guy doesn't want it. If he's THE man according to Fitzsimmons then stop criticizing other fans and criticize the sportsmen.

      I don't get how Fitzsimmons can't realize Kovalev is THE man. Hopkins picked him, Pascal calls him the man in the division. Nobody respects Stevenson.

      He's trying to compare Leonard-Hearns to Kovalev-Stevenson in terms of opposition..

      Sugar Ray fought the man at 154 then faced Hitman Hearns at 147 right after, yet Stevenson is looking for Fonfara 2??? What the actual ****
      Last edited by SlySlickSmooth; 12-23-2014, 05:52 PM.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Norm Peterson View Post
        Stevenson has beaten a Chad Dawson that was likely ruined by Ward and subsequently ducked fights with Kovalev, Hopkins & Pascal in that time. But he building towards da superfight doe.

        Why does this site employ such a worthless, talentless hack?





        What ****zsimmons fails to point out (almost certainly because he wasn't aware of such a fact) is that Leonard and Hearns had agreed in principle to fight six months before they actually did, hence Hearns being on the undercard of Leonard-Kalule.
        So Stevenson signing with Al Haymon equals to ducking Kovalev because HBO is throwing a hissy fit about losing Mayweather and refuse to do business with Haymon. Are all fighters that sign with Haymon ducking fighters that fight on HBO? HBO is working this dispute good because they have people like you making generalized statements like that to help them sptead their propaganda. Didn't Bernard Hopkins back out of fighting Stevenson himself and not the other way around? Isn't the same true with Pascal and his 50\50 demand? Correct me if I'm wrong. It seems that Stevenson is an easy target because he is represented by Haymon who is an easy target because he represents Mayweather. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by peplz View Post
          So Stevenson signing with Al Haymon equals to ducking Kovalev because HBO is throwing a hissy fit about losing Mayweather and refuse to do business with Haymon. Are all fighters that sign with Haymon ducking fighters that fight on HBO? HBO is working this dispute good because they have people like you making generalized statements like that to help them sptead their propaganda. Didn't Bernard Hopkins back out of fighting Stevenson himself and not the other way around? Isn't the same true with Pascal and his 50\50 demand? Correct me if I'm wrong. It seems that Stevenson is an easy target because he is represented by Haymon who is an easy target because he represents Mayweather. Correct me if I'm wrong.
          Sorry but your argument is invalid asking me questions as if I accused Stevenson of ducking through managment and promotional choices. I never once have talked about Stevenson's choices to sign with whoever. My whole reason for ****ting on Stevenson has zero to do with who he chooses for promotion, these are the guys that sign the contracts. If he doesn't want Fonfara 2 or whatever opponent they want to line him up with, then don't sign. Get them to get you Kovalev, there's SO much money for Stevenson-Kovalev to make if they fight in Canada. Stevenson would be getting paid more than what he is now. What? do you not want him to get that huge payday while possibly becoming the Undisputed Lightheavyweight or do you care more about a guy's purse and who his manager is?

          I just want to hear Adonis bitchass Stevenson to get on the microphone in front of all his fans and say "I want Kovalev" instead of "My promoters this. My promoters that. But I do want Bernard Hopkins!!" If he wants Kovalev, he can get Kovalev. Stop signing to fight unworthy opponents for the cash and make big bucks against Kovalev while also having the shot to become an UNDISUPUTED champion.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Real Talk85 View Post
            How hard is it to look like a killer fighting the bums that Kovalev did? Cleverly was also a bum, he just got beat by a fat Tony Bellew.
            So, Hopkins is a bum?

            YDKSAB.

            And I suppose Tavoris Cloud is some world beater? He got destroyed by a 6 fight novice.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by peplz View Post
              So Stevenson signing with Al Haymon equals to ducking Kovalev because HBO is throwing a hissy fit about losing Mayweather and refuse to do business with Haymon. Are all fighters that sign with Haymon ducking fighters that fight on HBO? HBO is working this dispute good because they have people like you making generalized statements like that to help them sptead their propaganda. Didn't Bernard Hopkins back out of fighting Stevenson himself and not the other way around? Isn't the same true with Pascal and his 50\50 demand? Correct me if I'm wrong. It seems that Stevenson is an easy target because he is represented by Haymon who is an easy target because he represents Mayweather. Correct me if I'm wrong.
              No, Haymon isn't the only reason Stevenson is "an easy target". There are other reasons why people don't like him:

              1. He's a former pimp/little girl beater
              2. He blatantly ducked the Kovalev fight
              3. His general attitude and behavior. Celebrating after brutally knocking out opponents when they could be badly hurt (Dawson, Boone II, Noe Gonzalez, Sukhotsky), and thinking he's some huge star when his biggest accomplishment to date is knocking out mentally shot Chad Dawson.

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              • #47
                I think you're missing the point of the article and proving its point at the same time. People like you use twitter and other social networking platforms to voice your feelings about why fights don't get made and really don't consider the facts. Then professional writer's go out and write articles that parrot the same sentiments to cater to those types of fans. The writer of this article is speaking his own mind contrary to what the popular word on twitter is and he gets attacked for it. Which proves why the other writers who just stay in line with what is being said on social media do that. The part where journalists do thorough research and use their inside connections to inform the audience is being lost to hack jobs who prefer to cater to the masses. Don't you think its the media's job to inform people with facts and background information? Or do believe thwt writer's should say what they think people want to hear even if it isn't true? Those are real questions that people should think about because it applies to more than just the boxing media.
                Last edited by peplz; 12-23-2014, 08:02 PM. Reason: misspelled words

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by peplz View Post
                  I think you're missing the point of the article and proving its point at the same time. People like you use twitter and other social networking platforms to voice your feelings about why fights don't get made and really don't consider the facts. Then professional writer's go out and write articles that parrot the same sentiments to cater to those types of fans. The writer of this article is speaking his own mind contrary to what the popular word on twitter is and he gets attacked for it. Which proves why the other writers who just stay in line with what is being said on social media do that. The part where journalists do thorough research and use their inside connections to inform the audience is being lost to hack jobs who prefer to cater to the masses. Don't you think its the media's job to inform people with facts and background information? Or do believe thwt writer's should say what they think people want to hear even if it isn't true? Those are real questions that people should think about because it applies to more than just the boxing media.
                  He gets attacked because he writes like a douchebag hack with a clear, pathetic agenda who thinks he's better than everyone.

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                  • #49
                    "In today's 'journalism', boxing gets trampled in desperation to generate clicks."

                    There. Fixed it for you.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth View Post
                      Sorry but your argument is invalid asking me questions as if I accused Stevenson of ducking through managment and promotional choices. I never once have talked about Stevenson's choices to sign with whoever. My whole reason for ****ting on Stevenson has zero to do with who he chooses for promotion, these are the guys that sign the contracts. If he doesn't want Fonfara 2 or whatever opponent they want to line him up with, then don't sign. Get them to get you Kovalev, there's SO much money for Stevenson-Kovalev to make if they fight in Canada. Stevenson would be getting paid more than what he is now. What? do you not want him to get that huge payday while possibly becoming the Undisputed Lightheavyweight or do you care more about a guy's purse and who his manager is?

                      I just want to hear Adonis bitchass Stevenson to get on the microphone in front of all his fans and say "I want Kovalev" instead of "My promoters this. My promoters that. But I do want Bernard Hopkins!!" If he wants Kovalev, he can get Kovalev. Stop signing to fight unworthy opponents for the cash and make big bucks against Kovalev while also having the shot to become an UNDISUPUTED champion.
                      "Ducking through management" huh... Thats part of the point. You accuse Stevenson of ducking without acknowledging the reality of the situation. HBO doesn't work with Haymon but I haven't heard anything about Showtime not working with Kathy Duva. Yet in your "analysis" its Stevenson's fault. I don't care how much money these guys make. What they eat doesn't make me ****. Talking on the microphone wouldn't do anything. Let's see what happens after HBO drops its ban on all things Haymon. Until then accusing anyone of ducking is just wrong and pointless. Saying that Stevenson is ducking really just makes him look more like The Man and increases his market value. Hate doesn't really do what you think it does.

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