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  • #81
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    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
    I think this article explains it all perfectly. Floyd has lost the "PR" war to Bob Arum, as this author skillfully illustrates:

    December 16, 2014:

    At first I thought Pacquiao beating Algieri didn't fool anybody, but I think I was wrong. You'd think that the lousy PPV numbers would suggest that the public knew it wasn't much of a fight. And that winning a decision, when he really needed a knockout, and didn't get it over a novice wouldn't restore the public's sense that Pacquiao is now a killer again. But apparently it has?

    I tried to explain before the bout how Pacquiao-Algieri was specifically made to create the illusion that Manny is back now and is as good as and smarter than ever. And you know what? Based on what's scoured in the sports section of many newspapers and on the Internet, they were more successful than I thought they'd be. Because it seems Manny went from being the prohibitive underdog when matched up with Mayweather after being knocked out by Juan Manuel Marquez two years ago, to now being almost even money based on him taking Chris Algieri to boxing school last month.

    Based on the consensus, Pacquiao gets some breaks that Mayweather would never get in the eyes of the boxing public. And since 2009 I've maintained and have been consistent that Mayweather-Pacquiao hasn't happened because of Mayweather's reluctance more so than Pacquiao's. Ever since the talk of them fighting each other became a hot topic, it's been mostly because of Floyd why it didn't happen. And I still stand by that.

    But what's fair is fair… I wonder how well Mayweather would've been received if he signed to fight Algieri and beat him as handily as Pacquiao did?

    For starters, Floyd would've been excoriated by both boxing fans and the media for fighting a no hope opponent like Chris Algieri. Leading up to the fight we would've read about how Algieri barely beat Ruslan Provodnikov and the fight is just another hoax by Mayweather to pocket $30 million and avoid fighting Pacquiao.

    Let us suppose that it was Mayweather who peppered Algieri for 36 uninterrupted minutes on November 23rd instead of Pacquiao, which of course isn't much of reach. What would the post-fight chatter be? I can only speculate, but I'd be willing to bet that the loudest voices wouldn't be declaring that Floyd is back and is as sharp as ever. Nor would the talk be centered on how quick and accurate he is and how impossible it is to lay a glove on, and you know I'm right. I think it would be more on the lines of, "Mayweather fought Algieri because he knew he couldn't lose and how it says nothing as to how great he still is because he handled a beginner like Algieri." And then every name fighter campaigning between 140-147 who was more deserving and dangerous than Algieri would be named and suggested as that's who Floyd should've fought instead. And if that were the case, they'd be correct.

    So why does Pacquiao get a pass?

    For more than a decade critics and fans have ripped Mayweather up and down, and rightfully so, for being too judicious and fighting no hope opponents who resembled Algieri. Or to put it another way, for fighting and defending his titles against opponents who didn't have tool-one to beat him with. The opponents he fought were either too old or too green (like Algieri), or they just didn't have the skill or power (like Algieri) to concern Mayweather in the least.

    I can't envision a case being made on Mayweather's behalf suggesting or reinforcing that he could beat Pacquiao based on how Floyd performed against Algieri had they fought. All that would be repeated over and over to rebuke that is, Algieri is inexperienced and Mayweather only did what he should've done against a limited opponent at the most elite level in professional boxing. And that's all that Pacquiao did! And actually, Manny underperformed because he didn't get the stoppage or come close to the first round kayo that his trainer Freddie Roach predicted he would score.

    The overreaction to Pacquiao's showing against Algieri is ridiculous.

    http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...e-pacquiao-did
    i think your post explains it all perfectly. another butthurt pacquiao ball sack sniffer

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    • #82
      Pacs featherweight run is more exciting than Mayweathers entire career. no doubt about that.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Zhang Yong Jun View Post
        Black america would never get over an ''asian midget'' dominating their god. It will eat their souls.
        Why would you categorize every black in America as if they all have the same views and opinions?

        You're a ****** mufcka..whats ur name? Zhang Yong Jun...I'm bout to fck with you Zhang Yong Jun you rice eating fish breathe smelling lil b!tch

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        • #84
          Originally posted by HookequalsKO View Post
          My post was based on what was posted. PED accusations and how they'll be used by floyd to taint pac's legacy. those go hand in hand with the KO "Manny wasn't on them steroids anymore. that's why he got knocked out"....Floyd doesn't have to use them. People already see how he was on them and they contribute it to why he got knocked out
          suddenly Floydfans became "PEDS Experts"

          Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
          Unlike PAC when Floyd gives rematches he wins without little doubt. Castillo v Floyd l was a toss up. Gave an immediate rematch and won... Move on. Fight 3 of the 4 fight series was a clearer win for marquez than Castillo over Floyd. We all know what happened in fight 4.


          No amount of criticism can change what has happened or his accomplishments


          Prook is in the pudding. 47 wins 22 were title fights and 19 were over current or past champions/titlist


          You must just started watching boxing this year cause he has faced every style
          since ur telling tat Floyd can easily beat PAC... can u pls tell Floyd to grew some balls and #fightpacquiao??

          Originally posted by hitking View Post
          You do realize that Manny has a pretty extensive criminal history that stems from a ******** addiction. Before many of you knew he existed, it was well known in the Philippines that he liked hustling in pool halls and oftens got in bar fights injuring people. Its also well known that he he's a womanizer and has cheated on Jinkee throughout their marriage. He and Floyd are that much different. Manny just portrays the good guy image in public.
          and Floyd is a woman-beater .. i can do bad things but beating a woman, OH NO!

          Originally posted by Digital Hu$tler View Post
          In the grand scheme of things Pacquiao will be a after thought

          Floyd will remembered as the best to ever do it

          Years from now when people go back and watch old Floyd fights and watch old Floyd trash talking clips and trainning videos and the lifestyle and how he did it in and outside the ring they gonna say this guy was on another level
          i watch Floyd fights and i got bored
          i think il remeber floyds clps on youtube,, basically clips of excuses to avoid Pac/cotto/tony fights
          lifestyle? throwing fake moneys? beating womens? dishonoring his predator dad?
          yes hes in another level, absolutely a crackhead

          Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
          He said they made him weak after losing to Erik morales....the needle is small AF and they don't take much blood at all. Most people on the forum have gave blood for free...now that plasma needle is ****ing huge and is worse.

          I'm not gonna accuse either of cheating but if their was anyone to speculate about, it would be manny. He takes random tests years after not taking the biggest fight ever because of them. Possibly he thought he would lose, was scared of tests for real, or he was juicing. What's more likely?
          in his country thers lots of superstitious beliefs and for years of stalking pac u knew that..u r just playing dumb imho

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          • #85
            Originally posted by T.M.T View Post
            and you can go gargle your endless supply of pacquiao *****. jealous coward
            Wow, nice rebuttal really put a dent on my ego.

            In any event, answer this question. Did DLH not fight everyone win or lose despite wearing fish nets, snorting half of Tijuana and losing major scraps?

            Sure, he was a diva but did his divaism prevent him from giving the fans what they wanted to see?

            Side note : I'd never thought I'd see the day where I would defend Oscar but when facts are facts than your dislike for one should never supercede logic and folks the fact is DLH has fought everyone.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
              Golden Boy Promotions President Oscar De La Hoya admits that a few years ago he would have quickly picked Manny Pacquiao to defeat Floyd Mayweather Jr.

              That is no longer the case. In the opinion of De La Hoya, Pacquiao's physical abilities gave declined quicker than Mayweather's - which De La Hoya attributes to the many tough fights which Pacquiao took part in.

              De La Hoya faced both fighters in the ring, dropping a twelve round split decision to Mayweather in 2007 and then getting stopped by Pacquiao in eight rounds in 2008.
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              ODLH is proving once again, that he doesn't have the mentality to be a Promoter. He is divisive, interjects personal feelings into the discussion and generally makes the wrong statements in public constantly. All of which, justifies the desperate need for a business savvy CEO to run GBP -- ODLH is the personality of GBP, but not the brain.

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              • #87
                Well, that's the advantage of having a big c*ck.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                  Pacquiao is going to be most remembered for getting his @ssed knocked out by JMM after getting 2 nods that could have went to Marquez.
                  .....bbb......bbbb...........bbbwaaaah hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

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                  • #89
                    Floyd fans talking about Floyd taking high risks fights than Manny. LMAO

                    Floyd fought:

                    Ortiz = Weak willed kissing **** who got knocked out by a sucker punch that didn't look like it hurt but because he likes to give up easily took a dive to get out of the fight.

                    Where is Ortiz now?

                    Cotto = who Floyd couldn't even knockout like Manny did. And the fact that most Floyd fans called Cotto a not great fighter before the fight between Floyd and Cotto was made. So, why did Floyd fought Cotto if he wasn't so great?

                    Guerrero = another hype job boxer who beat a hyped up boxer named Berto. Both boxer Berto and Guerrero are now more of image boxers who don't fight anyone are clearly not great fighters at all.

                    Canelo = only good boxer and in the right division that Floyd fought in the last 4 years.

                    Maidana = let us be honest. I love Maidana but come on he is no killing machine and what earned him the spot to fight Floyd was beating hyped job Broner, Josesito Lopez, and journeyman Karass.

                    Maidana is a fan friendly fighter but Floyd second match with him was so boring and it was more like watching a marathon and sprint than boxing.

                    Seriously these are Floyd's opponents which his fans are calling high risks. LMAO

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                    • #90
                      De La Hoya needs to relax. Yeah, pacquiao has more respect. But guess what. IT DOESN'T MATTER

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