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  • Rath
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    #341
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    If the date doesn't matter, why is Bob making it one?
    It was Floyd who makes it a big deal, what are you talking about?

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      #342
      Originally posted by Zhang Yong Jun
      The fight sell regardless!

      To have personal gripe with promoter is fantarded sir.
      To not see Bob Arum's hypocrisy is also "fantarded" sir. It's obvous that Manny has no problem with fighting on Cinco de Mayo weekend, because he's done it at least twice. Manny is TR's # 1 fighter and a great champion, and Arum's job is to get he fight done! He's failed twice, once for blood testing, and second for outdoor stadiums. Pacquiao fans should not allow this to happen for a third time because of Cinco de Mayo weekend.

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        #343
        Originally posted by Rath
        And even more hilarious when Floyd say Yes Pac you're next, no not at all i did not say that don't put words into my mouth". what a blatant in your face insult to every man in the rooms intelligence lie.

        had there been no video clip of that announcement, Floyd fans would be armed to the teeth to defend it. hell even if there was a video clip of that floyd fans still defend it with all their might.
        . . . Still, nothing is quite as funny as seeing people actually not having a problem with what Bob Arum is doing.

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        • Rath
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          #344
          Originally posted by MPX309
          . . . Still, nothing is quite as funny as seeing people actually not having a problem with what Bob Arum is doing.
          Got you didn't I?

          Where were we again.... oh yeah Floyd and Pac. what's bob doing in your sentence?

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            #345
            Originally posted by Rath
            It was Floyd who makes it a big deal, what are you talking about?
            Just because he said May 2nd in the interview?

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              #346
              Originally posted by MPX309
              . . . Still, nothing is quite as funny as seeing people actually not having a problem with what Bob Arum is doing.
              This is what makes everything so funny:

              December 16, 2014:

              Floyd Mayweather has been excoriated for fighting hand-picked opponents and being too risk averse in the last five years, especially in this space. And Mayweather has been dominant in most of those bouts where you/me/we belabored him for fighting opponents who would make him look sensational. Yet, Manny Pacquiao can fight Chris Algieri, who I questioned before the fight as being PPV worthy, something the terrible buy numbers supported, and he gets major props for winning every round against him?

              At first I thought Pacquiao beating Algieri didn't fool anybody, but I think I was wrong. You'd think that the lousy PPV numbers would suggest that the public knew it wasn't much of a fight. And that winning a decision, when he really needed a knockout, and didn't get it over a novice wouldn't restore the public's sense that Pacquiao is now a killer again. But apparently it has?

              I tried to explain before the bout how Pacquiao-Algieri was specifically made to create the illusion that Manny is back now and is as good as and smarter than ever. And you know what? Based on what's scoured in the sports section of many newspapers and on the Internet, they were more successful than I thought they'd be. Because it seems Manny went from being the prohibitive underdog when matched up with Mayweather after being knocked out by Juan Manuel Marquez two years ago, to now being almost even money based on him taking Chris Algieri to boxing school last month.

              Based on the consensus, Pacquiao gets some breaks that Mayweather would never get in the eyes of the boxing public. And since 2009 I've maintained and have been consistent that Mayweather-Pacquiao hasn't happened because of Mayweather's reluctance more so than Pacquiao's. Ever since the talk of them fighting each other became a hot topic, it's been mostly because of Floyd why it didn't happen. And I still stand by that.

              But what's fair is fair… I wonder how well Mayweather would've been received if he signed to fight Algieri and beat him as handily as Pacquiao did?

              For starters, Floyd would've been excoriated by both boxing fans and the media for fighting a no hope opponent like Chris Algieri. Leading up to the fight we would've read about how Algieri barely beat Ruslan Provodnikov and the fight is just another hoax by Mayweather to pocket $30 million and avoid fighting Pacquiao.

              Let us suppose that it was Mayweather who peppered Algieri for 36 uninterrupted minutes on November 23rd instead of Pacquiao, which of course isn't much of reach. What would the post-fight chatter be? I can only speculate, but I'd be willing to bet that the loudest voices wouldn't be declaring that Floyd is back and is as sharp as ever. Nor would the talk be centered on how quick and accurate he is and how impossible it is to lay a glove on, and you know I'm right. I think it would be more on the lines of, "Mayweather fought Algieri because he knew he couldn't lose and how it says nothing as to how great he still is because he handled a beginner like Algieri." And then every name fighter campaigning between 140-147 who was more deserving and dangerous than Algieri would be named and suggested as that's who Floyd should've fought instead. And if that were the case, they'd be correct.

              So why does Pacquiao get a pass?

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                #347
                Lmao there's absolutely no way May-Pac ever gets made yo...

                How can we expect the two parties to agree on:

                Purse split
                Venue
                Date
                Ring size
                Gloves
                Referee
                Judges
                PED Testing Parameters (agency, cut-off dates, etc.)
                TV Network(s)
                Promotion



                Even if by some miracle this fight ever comes together and things get agreed to, there's no way they can settle this stuff in time to build for a cinco de mayo weekend fight. It's already too late in the game

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                • Rath
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                  #348
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  So are you trying to tell me that Arum didn't strategically schedule those Pacquiao fights on Cinco de Mayo weekend to profit off the holiday? Now that Floyd has been dominating the weekend for 4 years, he should move the date so Bob can get paid off Cotto fighting Canelo? Take the test! Take the $40 Million! Now it's "Take the date!"
                  I think your memory is messing up with you, but let's for the sake of argument agree that your memory serves you right.

                  Floyd = 4 yrs dominating cinco de mayo.
                  Pac = fight hatton, and mosley on may ( i suppose your memory will also tell you that Pac can't fight hatton and mosley in one monthe which is may) therefore Pac fought on May twice which is 2 yrs right?

                  So:

                  Floyd - 4 yrs domintating cinxo de mayo minus Pac for two years equals

                  Floyd = 2
                  Pac = 2

                  now:

                  Where was Floyd and his fans when Pac fought Hatton in may?
                  why is there no uproar from Floyd and his fans that May belongs to Floyd?

                  Where was Floyd and his fans when Pac fought Mosley n may?
                  why is there no uproar from Floyd and his fans that May belongs to Floyd?

                  your memory is playing mind tricks on you

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                  • MPX309
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                    #349
                    Originally posted by Rath
                    Got you didn't I?

                    Where were we again.... oh yeah Floyd and Pac. what's bob doing in your sentence?
                    You wish, it's Dec 2014 right now, and only one thing as far as I can see is holding this up. . . Try to keep up. Floyd can be held accountable for certain aspects in the past, I've never denied that, but right now, at the end of this year. . . Someone's agenda is shining brighter than ever.

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                      #350
                      Originally posted by Rath
                      I think your memory is messing up with you, but let's for the sake of argument agree that your memory serves you right.

                      Floyd = 4 yrs dominating cinco de mayo.
                      Pac = fight hatton, and mosley on may ( i suppose your memory will also tell you that Pac can't fight hatton and mosley in one monthe which is may) therefore Pac fought on May twice which is 2 yrs right?

                      So:

                      Floyd - 4 yrs domintating cinxo de mayo minus Pac for two years equals

                      Floyd = 2
                      Pac = 2

                      now:

                      Where was Floyd and his fans when Pac fought Hatton in may?
                      why is there no uproar from Floyd and his fans that May belongs to Floyd?

                      Where was Floyd and his fans when Pac fought Mosley n may?
                      why is there no uproar from Floyd and his fans that May belongs to Floyd?

                      your memory is playing mind tricks on you
                      If dates don't matter, why did Bob make Manny fights on this weekend when Floyd was retired?

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