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  • Scott9945
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    #11
    Originally posted by big_james10
    I am not sure if you are familiar with or saw Michael Grant fight in his heyday. If you did, you will know what Stiverne's manager is talking about. Grant's career was choreographed and he was a beast who was knocking guys out left and right.....until he stepped in the ring with Lennox Lewis.

    Wilder is a modern day version of Michael Grant and Bermane Stiverne will be his Waterloo.....I mean Lennox Lewis.
    Grant had actually fought much better competition than Wilder has prior to his title shot.

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      #12
      Originally posted by big_james10

      Wilder is a modern day version of Michael Grant and Bermane Stiverne will be his Waterloo.....I mean Lennox Lewis.
      The only heavyweight today that can be compared to Lennox Lewis is Wladimir Klitschko.

      Stiverne and Wilder are pawns compared to the heavyweights of the 90s.

      Wilder is greener than Stiverne, but the gap between them is small enough that the fight could go either way.

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        #13
        Regardless of the winner. I expect Klitschko to demolish him. Much like his brother, only retirement is going to end Wlad's reign. That much I think we can agree on. The landscape of the heavyweight division is going to change dramatically once Wlad leaves the picture. Belt holders are going to change like night and day. It's going to be very competitive. I don't think we'll see a heavyweight clearly dominate the division and hold the crown for at least a decade.

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          #14
          Originally posted by b morph
          Regardless of the winner. I expect Klitschko to demolish him. Much like his brother, only retirement is going to end Wlad's reign. That much I think we can agree on. The landscape of the heavyweight division is going to change dramatically once Wlad leaves the picture. Belt holders are going to change like night and day. It's going to be very competitive. I don't think we'll see a heavyweight clearly dominate the division and hold the crown for at least a decade.
          I don't believe Wilder to end Klitchko reign but I do believe the man to do that is Joshua. If he continues his current pase I believe he will end the Klitchko nightmare and begin his own reign in the heavyweight divison.

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            #15
            Stivernes manager is exactly right

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              #16
              Originally posted by mathed
              I can see what he is saying to a point but it's pretty hard, very difficult to stage 32 KO's out of 32 fights in the HW division because any opponent can probably KO you as well given the weight these guys have. So, there has got to be something that Wilder is bringing to the table that provides this consistency....you can look at GGG, Kovalev, Wlad and Matthysse as well.....it's called power.

              Stiverne is a good boxer but he doesn't provide the movement needed to evade Wilder's power and reach. People are going to see on the 17th, Stiverne is getting dropped like the rest of Wilder's opposition has. He is durable and may take Wilder a little longer to do it but I personally think that Wilder will come at him early and try to beat him down to prove a point.
              Stiverne's manger is not saying that his 32 KO's were dives but against very limited opposition. I happened to like both fighters but if the fight goes past 8, Wilder is in trouble.

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                #17
                Originally posted by valero
                The only heavyweight today that can be compared to Lennox Lewis is Wladimir Klitschko.

                Stiverne and Wilder are pawns compared to the heavyweights of the 90s.

                Wilder is greener than Stiverne, but the gap between them is small enough that the fight could go either way.
                Yeah I would say that Stiverne and Wilder are more like the fat version of David Tua that Lewis fought and Michael Grant.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Scott9945
                  Grant had actually fought much better competition than Wilder has prior to his title shot.
                  Good point. Grant did fight much better competition. However, my point wast was that Grant was not very good and Lewis exposed that. That is what I am saying about Wilder.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by valero
                    The only heavyweight today that can be compared to Lennox Lewis is Wladimir Klitschko.

                    Stiverne and Wilder are pawns compared to the heavyweights of the 90s.

                    Wilder is greener than Stiverne, but the gap between them is small enough that the fight could go either way.
                    I saw Lennox Lewis get knocked out by Oliver McCall and Hasim Rachman with one punch. He is definitely not an ATG. In my opinion, Lewis was an average fighter who only got as far as he did because of his height advantage over his opponents. Since you brought it up, I think Kiltschko is also an average fight whose biggest asset is his height advantage. If Lewis and Klitschko were 6'2 or 6'3, they would not have accomplished nearly as much as they did in their careers.

                    Wilder is not very good. Stiverne is much better and will prove that on January 17.

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