Does Floyd deserve to be #1 lb for lb?

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  • eazy_mas
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    #51
    I think he deseves it because he won many greats:

    - Joe Luis Castillo x2
    - Deigo Corrales
    - Aruto Gatti
    - Shamba Mitclle
    - Emulo Augustus

    and Zab Judah is next so which guy for him to beat so he could be No1 P4P boxers.

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    • Left2body
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      #52
      Originally posted by Katz
      i think #1 should be vacant

      1)
      2)Pacman
      3)PBF
      4)Winky

      if PBF beats an Elite this year he can take 1 and also Winky, if he beats Taylor.

      If not Pacman will take it assuming he KO Morales again.

      why pacman at #3? he is the only facing Elite and scoring a TKO of the 3 fighters above on their last bout.

      PBF destroys Michelle a semi dead horse.

      Winky can't KO a conterder on his last fight.

      of the 3 Pacman has the most impressive win.

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      this is not a bias opinion but a fact

      Ok, first off there is no such thing as vacant #1 by having it empty and putting Pacman at #2 your making him the defacto #1. Perhaps you put it that way to avert criticism in some way.

      First off let me say that I enjoy watching PBF fight but I'm not a huge PBF fan my preferred fighter is Cotto whom I think would lose to PBF hands down if they fought this year.

      Secondly how can you down grade PBF fight resume especially down grading his fight with Zab who lost his last fight with Balomir. However Pacman did the same thing fighting an Eric Morales that came off a loss to Barrera before their first fight and Eric was coming off a loss to Raheem before their 2nd fight. I'm not trying to down grade Pacman but you gotta use the same ruler for both fighters.

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      • TheEvilSaint
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        #53
        diego corrales, jose luis castillo (twice), famoso hernandez, jesus chavez, demarcus corley, sharmba mitchell, and arturo gatti. all former champions and corrales, chavez, mitchell, and gatti have been stopped by floyd mayweather jr.

        with titles in 3 (soon to be 4) divisions and a resume like the one above, of course floyd should be #1.

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        • Easy-E
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          #54
          Originally posted by Left2body
          Ok, first off there is no such thing as vacant #1 by having it empty and putting Pacman at #2 your making him the defacto #1. Perhaps you put it that way to avert criticism in some way.

          First off let me say that I enjoy watching PBF fight but I'm not a huge PBF fan my preferred fighter is Cotto whom I think would lose to PBF hands down if they fought this year.

          Secondly how can you down grade PBF fight resume especially down grading his fight with Zab who lost his last fight with Balomir. However Pacman did the same thing fighting an Eric Morales that came off a loss to Barrera before their first fight and Eric was coming off a loss to Raheem before their 2nd fight. I'm not trying to down grade Pacman but you gotta use the same ruler for both fighters.
          good point actully
          pacs biggest fights are a draw to jmm, a loss to morales, a wins vs morales, even though he just lost to raheem, similar to the baldomir zab fight (morales wobbled bigime, was a bigtime fav and lost a ud, same as zab) and a nice ko win vs barrera. floyds trying to make big fights guys, hes offerered tony, dlh, and hatton.

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          • nelsoncm
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            #55
            Originally posted by wmute
            floyd is number one p4p.

            he does not have embarassing defeats in his past (pac, winky, barrera), and out of all the unbeaten fighters (hatton, calzaghe, cotto) he is the one with the best opposition
            If this question was asked 1 or 2 years ago, I'd say NO ONE COMES CLOSE to even 1 light year.

            But so far, Floyd's opposition has been mediocre at best.

            And those are not embarrasing loses for Pac, Winky and MAB. It's a given for any fighter who needs time to improve and when on top, will stay there for long.

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            • The Devil
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              #56
              Originally posted by Alibata
              I for one think Floyd is probably the most skilled fighter in the world today, but his failure to fight the best at his current and last division have me questioning his status in most lb for lb lists. No doubt Floyd was the best at 130 and 135 but he is now a welter weight. Is he as fast, as strong, or as durable at this weight as he was at his previous weights(130-35)? Is he the best fighter in the world at this weight? I think most lists that have him #1 are speculatory. He needs to proove himself.
              None of this means jack **** unless you provide a reason somebody in particular deserves to be rated higher. If you are too blind to appreciate Floyds mastery, let us at least see your deductive reasoning and process of elimination.

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              • eazy_mas
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                #57
                saying the PBF is not no1 is like saying all his oppenet are bums and that is not true.

                fighters are measured by the other fighters they fight.

                as for Zab, he got a chance against PBF, he is quit and know one knows what he is doing. probably in the press conference.

                But maybe Zab could give PBF first ever upset, the silence is killing me from a trash talker like Zab.

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                • blockhead
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                  #58
                  i am curious to see where he ends up after getting knocked out. once he starts fighting the guys that he should i am positive that one of them will catch up to him and put him down for 10. my early guess is hatton to lose about eight rounds and them get lucky and ko floyd. i think a better question than "does floyd deserve to be no. 1 p4p" is "where will we put floyd once he gets ko'ed?"
                  because right now he is without a doubt no. 1.

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                  • Easy-E
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by blockhead
                    i am curious to see where he ends up after getting knocked out. once he starts fighting the guys that he should i am positive that one of them will catch up to him and put him down for 10. my early guess is hatton to lose about eight rounds and them get lucky and ko floyd. i think a better question than "does floyd deserve to be no. 1 p4p" is "where will we put floyd once he gets ko'ed?"
                    because right now he is without a doubt no. 1.
                    i kind of want to know how many floyd fights youve seen. if floyd wanted to, he could beat anybody by ud, but he opens up and try's to ko guys. his defense speed and footwork could result in him NEVER getting caught

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                    • RAESAAD
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                      #60
                      The answer to the question this threads poses is YES........who else deserves it at this point?

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