Comments Thread For: Mayweather: My Focus is Pacquiao, Not Amir Khan

[richardt]

That's totally true, but read the whole paragraph to see what's my point, Manny is a fighter who beats easily inside fighters, but struggles with outside fighters, even thou Manny's biggest asset is the outside game,, this only proves that Pacquiao vs Mayweather is all wrong for Pacquiao. Conclusion - Pacquiao style will never ever beat Floyd Mayweather. If you can prove me wrong with intelligence I will debate.

A) anyone with sense knows the only way to prove anyone wrong is when the fight occurs, not before, and not on paper. You will eventually learn that boxing is the theater of the unexpected and ANYTHING can and does happen.

B) style theories often fail and nearly as often as triangle theories, otherwise there would not be any sports book because one style would always beat the other which is far from the truth.

And if Pac's style never beats Mayweather's style then please bet your automobile or your house against my $100 bucks. I may be picking Floyd to win a close decision but there is no such thing as a fighter's style who will never beat another's as long as there a crude brawlers and or punchers who OFTEN beat slick stylists and vice versa and Pac is far more than a crude brawler. It is like the rock/paper/scissors game. Anything can happen.

I can come up with a number of scenarios where Floyd could win and number of scenarios where Pac could win. THAT is the objective way to look at the fight. That's why fighters box, to see who is best. That is decided in the ring, not in debating circles or theories. Otherwise we would not have fights, the best would be pre-decided by a group of people in some voting process and they would never have to get into the ring.

I wont charge you this time for the information.....next time it is cash or PayPal only.

[Small Turn]

Does he sign the contract yet...if not then STFU

[Mr.Daddy]

The 2/100 people who would have rather watched khan are just plain dumb. Mannys worst opponent in the last 15 Years is about as good as Devon Alexander, and he has consistently beaten a and b level fighters during that whole time. Not just beats them but absolutely dominates them most of the time and knocks them down usually and leaves them bloody and battered. Amir khan fights one b level fighter who was tailor made with no power who David Diaz and Chris algieri would have beaten, doesn't knock him down or reallybeat him up that bad but wins a good decision. And now he leapfrogs Manny in who deserves Floyd more? Lololol please what are you sniffing? Whatever it is pass it over here. I agree I think for the first time there is real hope. Manny is already talking as If the fight will get made for sure, talking strategy, also saying purse split doesn't matter, plus who shows Floyd need to face to keep his ppv crown and his may date? Pacman

Perfect! I could not have said it better if I had tried.

[SterlingStained]

khan floyd fight will happen before pac fight.

there is a verbal agreement between both camps.

its gonna be floyd khan and pac v broner with the winner facing each other.

that's what the FBI is hearing from their al haymon wiretaps.

[sosiqwitit]

One needs to only watch Pacquiao-Mosley to see how potentially easy this fight might be for Floyd. I mean that.

mosley was doing alright for the first two rds and he still was losing. then he got clipped in the third then proceeded to get on his bike and didn't even want to engage. one of manny's easiest fights.

[batista84]

That **** is mad funny! This **** here is all business:

I personally think that Mayweather is looking for the golden excuse to finally back out and never face Pacquiao.

Time is not on Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum’s side. If he pushes for Saul “Canelo” Alvarez getting the May 2nd date against Miguel Cotto, the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight may be lost for good. It’s too big a gamble, Floyd can’t be controlled. He would be willing to go head to head against the Canelo/Cotto PPV fight just to prove a point even if he loses potentially millions in the process. That’s my opinion whether he would be willing to do it is debatable but again not worth the risk.

Mayweather will be out of the boxing game soon enough. As far as fighting is concerned, let him have his dates it’s not that big of a deal. Canelo is still controllable. He’s understanding and doesn’t think he’s above all and would clearly understand what a bad business decision that would be.

If Arum pushes for Canelo having the May 2nd date then Mayweather Jr will no doubt respond with something like ‘I’m the A – side boxer,’ ‘I call the shots,’ ‘A – side gets first pick at whatever date he wants to fight on,’ ‘I gave team Pacquiao the opportunity to fight me on that date and they said no!,’ ‘this was their last chance at it, ‘no more chances!’ Trust my words, if Arum creates waves on this trying to salvage both fights, he will lose the Mayweather fight and a possible rematch which should be the supreme priority here, and in the process give Mayweather the golden excuse he so desperately wants to finally never face Pacquiao and his hands would be clean or at least have some reason to claim it.

http://www.************.com/2014/12/...ight-pacquiao/

Moreover, talks of a fifth fight hit a snag when it came to it came to money. Marquez said he would entertain the idea of fighting Pac is he got a 50/50 split. Pac refused to accommodate Marquez request because Manny believed he was still the bigger draw. Here’s what Roach told the sweet science on April 13th: “I want Marquez right away. Manny and I both want it. But Marquez wants just about 50/50 split. Manny brings but in seats pay per view wise. Manny is the guy…..I think both guys can ask for more (money) and Marquez deserves something, but not 50/50”. Roach also told that same website that Marquez was asking 20 million...

Why do I bring up this point? Pacquiao has asked for a 50/50 split from A side Floyd Mayweather and Floyd has stated it would not happen. Allow me to drop this reality on Pacquiao fans and Floyd haters.

If Floyd had lost his title to Bradley, was koed by Marquez, got his title back from Bradley, fought Brandon Rios and did 470,000 buys, regainec his title by beating Bradley, then fought Chris Algieri and brought in just over 300,000 buys, Bob Arum, Pacquiao, and trainer Freddie Roach, would likely go out of their way to let Floyd and the public know who the B side to the proposed mega would be.

First, Floyd couldn’t fight Algieri and get away with it. The internet would crash from the comments that would fill the blogs. Arum would not let Floyd come anywhere near a 50/50 split. I’m sure Arum would make Floyd take that 40 million dollar offer with 35% upside of the revenue or Arum would go elsewhere.

Pacquiao has said on many occasions that he would take less money to make this fight happen. But when a confirmed 40 million dollar offer with 35% of the revenue was made, it wasn’t enough? So Pacquiao can tell Marquez he doesn’t deserve a 50/50 split nor 20 million dollars and he isn’t ducking or pricing himself out? But Floyd tells Pacquiao he doesn’t deserve a 50/50 split and Pacquiao fans/Floyd haters are saying Floyd is ducking and purposely pricing himself out? How does that work?

Pacquiao gets no sympathy from me nor does his fans until they can explain to me why Marquez doesn’t deserve what he asked for when he CLEARLY earned it. So in the words of Roach and I’m going to add/take away a few words. Floyd’s wants Manny right away. But Pacquiao wants just about 50/50 split. Floyd’s brings in the numbers pay per view wise. Floyd is the guy…..I think both guys can ask for more (money) and Manny deserves something, but not 50/50.

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One of the most factual and intelligent posts over here, I get your point.

Pacquiao's time is in the past, he was a hell of a fighter but he doesn't deserve to call the shots, specially considering all you said are facts and just the truth.

[batista84]

A) anyone with sense knows the only way to prove anyone wrong is when the fight occurs, not before, and not on paper. You will eventually learn that boxing is the theater of the unexpected and ANYTHING can and does happen.

B) style theories often fail and nearly as often as triangle theories, otherwise there would not be any sports book because one style would always beat the other which is far from the truth.

And if Pac's style never beats Mayweather's style then please bet your automobile or your house against my $100 bucks. I may be picking Floyd to win a close decision but there is no such thing as a fighter's style who will never beat another's as long as there a crude brawlers and or punchers who OFTEN beat slick stylists and vice versa and Pac is far more than a crude brawler. It is like the rock/paper/scissors game. Anything can happen.

I can come up with a number of scenarios where Floyd could win and number of scenarios where Pac could win. THAT is the objective way to look at the fight. That's why fighters box, to see who is best. That is decided in the ring, not in debating circles or theories. Otherwise we would not have fights, the best would be pre-decided by a group of people in some voting process and they would never have to get into the ring.

I wont charge you this time for the information.....next time it is cash or PayPal only.

Nice post! and very realistic, but let's look at facts and probabilities

1 Pacquiao only notable loses have been against outside fighters (thinkers, counter punchers, defensive fighters)
2 Pacquiao has won all his fights against inside fighters.
3 Pacquiao hasn't knocked out a guy since Miguel Cotto (2009), and since then he's been declining, declining and declining fast.
4 Mayweather's decline just started about half a year against Maidana I
5 Mayweather has struggled with the 2 kind of fighters (inside and outside fighters) but he's beaten them all
6 Mayweather always finds a way to win no matter what you give him.

Conclusion
By these facts, there's a 99% percent chance that Mayweather is gonna box Pacquiao really bad, and there's a 1% chance that Pacquiao could find Mayweather with one great shot wich seems very unlikely.

I can tell you why Khan is a better opponent thatn Pacquiao with an extensive and deep analysis.

I can't say you wrong because EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE inside the ring, but the numbers don't lie, Pacquiao's chances are almost none, and I better watch a fight that is a 70-30 in Khan than a fight that is 99-1 in Pacquiao.

[SplitSecond]

One of the most factual and intelligent posts over here, I get your point.

Pacquiao's time is in the past, he was a hell of a fighter but he doesn't deserve to call the shots, specially considering all you said are facts and just the truth.

most people agree that pacquiao should take 60/40

but people really have been underestimating his drawing power as of late because of the fights in china(8 hr difference)

marquez can't draw at all unless it's pacquiao and that's him adding his 2-300k(marquez's usual draw)

all you have to do is look at what pacquiao did the last time he was in the US in the bradley(relatively unknown) rematch, 800k(after the ko, the first fight was 900k and bradley was really unknown then), mayweather's last fight against maidana did 925K

the difference isn't that much, and if the may-pac fight happens all the pacquiao fans who weren't willing to pay for crap like algieri and staying up til 4am to watch it will come out of the woodworks to definitely buy the mayweather fight

it's not as bad as pacquiao's power over marquez, pacquiao and mayweather are alot closer

[elishua F]

That **** is mad funny! This **** here is all business:

I personally think that Mayweather is looking for the golden excuse to finally back out and never face Pacquiao.

Time is not on Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum’s side. If he pushes for Saul “Canelo” Alvarez getting the May 2nd date against Miguel Cotto, the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight may be lost for good. It’s too big a gamble, Floyd can’t be controlled. He would be willing to go head to head against the Canelo/Cotto PPV fight just to prove a point even if he loses potentially millions in the process. That’s my opinion whether he would be willing to do it is debatable but again not worth the risk.

Mayweather will be out of the boxing game soon enough. As far as fighting is concerned, let him have his dates it’s not that big of a deal. Canelo is still controllable. He’s understanding and doesn’t think he’s above all and would clearly understand what a bad business decision that would be.

If Arum pushes for Canelo having the May 2nd date then Mayweather Jr will no doubt respond with something like ‘I’m the A – side boxer,’ ‘I call the shots,’ ‘A – side gets first pick at whatever date he wants to fight on,’ ‘I gave team Pacquiao the opportunity to fight me on that date and they said no!,’ ‘this was their last chance at it, ‘no more chances!’ Trust my words, if Arum creates waves on this trying to salvage both fights, he will lose the Mayweather fight and a possible rematch which should be the supreme priority here, and in the process give Mayweather the golden excuse he so desperately wants to finally never face Pacquiao and his hands would be clean or at least have some reason to claim it.

http://www.************.com/2014/12/...ight-pacquiao/

Moreover, talks of a fifth fight hit a snag when it came to it came to money. Marquez said he would entertain the idea of fighting Pac is he got a 50/50 split. Pac refused to accommodate Marquez request because Manny believed he was still the bigger draw. Here’s what Roach told the sweet science on April 13th: “I want Marquez right away. Manny and I both want it. But Marquez wants just about 50/50 split. Manny brings but in seats pay per view wise. Manny is the guy…..I think both guys can ask for more (money) and Marquez deserves something, but not 50/50”. Roach also told that same website that Marquez was asking 20 million...

Why do I bring up this point? Pacquiao has asked for a 50/50 split from A side Floyd Mayweather and Floyd has stated it would not happen. Allow me to drop this reality on Pacquiao fans and Floyd haters.

If Floyd had lost his title to Bradley, was koed by Marquez, got his title back from Bradley, fought Brandon Rios and did 470,000 buys, regainec his title by beating Bradley, then fought Chris Algieri and brought in just over 300,000 buys, Bob Arum, Pacquiao, and trainer Freddie Roach, would likely go out of their way to let Floyd and the public know who the B side to the proposed mega would be.

First, Floyd couldn’t fight Algieri and get away with it. The internet would crash from the comments that would fill the blogs. Arum would not let Floyd come anywhere near a 50/50 split. I’m sure Arum would make Floyd take that 40 million dollar offer with 35% upside of the revenue or Arum would go elsewhere.

Pacquiao has said on many occasions that he would take less money to make this fight happen. But when a confirmed 40 million dollar offer with 35% of the revenue was made, it wasn’t enough? So Pacquiao can tell Marquez he doesn’t deserve a 50/50 split nor 20 million dollars and he isn’t ducking or pricing himself out? But Floyd tells Pacquiao he doesn’t deserve a 50/50 split and Pacquiao fans/Floyd haters are saying Floyd is ducking and purposely pricing himself out? How does that work?

Pacquiao gets no sympathy from me nor does his fans until they can explain to me why Marquez doesn’t deserve what he asked for when he CLEARLY earned it. So in the words of Roach and I’m going to add/take away a few words. Floyd’s wants Manny right away. But Pacquiao wants just about 50/50 split. Floyd’s brings in the numbers pay per view wise. Floyd is the guy…..I think both guys can ask for more (money) and Manny deserves something, but not 50/50.

http://www.************.com/2014/12/...r/#more-185662

Damn, i didnt even know that Manny refused to go 50/50 with Marquez for a fifth fight. Now thats just trifling. Lost major respect for Manny reading that. Marquez can make a strong case he won three of the four fights and hes not worth $20 million. Wow. Great post.

[SkillspayBills]

What's the issue with Khan fighting Brook for the IBF. Floyd fighting Pac for three belts and then the winners can face off for all the belts in the WW division.