How many PPV buys does Cotto-Canelo get?

[-MEGA-]

I'd say at least 600k. Anything less than that would be a disappointment I'd imagine.

[Beater_of_ass]

Lara vs Canelo numbers doesn't back that up. I know Lara doesn't have a big name at all but 300K says a lot about this so called following.

Cotto got between 300-350K for Martinez a fighter with a name not a big name but he is known.

Now you trying to tell me that between the 2 of them they will come up with 400K worth of buyers to a ppv between the 2 of them.

I just don't see it at all.

You not "seeing" it means you are choosing not to or just dumb, I hate to say it. When you put 2 draws together it always does more than what they each did on their own and by more than double. According to you Manny wouldn't be able to draw **** with Floyd because he's last fights have doen 300k, 800k and 300k. In fact that should be example enough that the numbers nearly triple... Cotto with Margarito 600k, with Floyd nearly triple at 1.5 million. Floyd with Maidana did 800k, Floyd got 2.2 million with Canelo who is a draw and got nearly triple the buys. I can go look at more examples but I'm not because you have to be just ignoring numbers to think these guys won't draw.

When Cotto and Canelo fight they each get fans to buy their fights. When they face each other both fans buy the fight and then non fans of the fighters will buy because it's a good scrap and they are fans of boxing. That's why the buys triple for people with draws because they get each of their fanbase buying and both of their names on the marquee draws out people who like good fights and big names not just name.

[LouIE G]

Tops out at 700K at best.

This is not a fight casuals will flock to and its not a fight that will cross racial lines for hardcore fans or casual fans. By that I mean other races of people will not make it their business to watch/order this fight in large numbers.

Casuals once they hear the names will only know that both lost to Floyd one of which was dominated and one also lost to Manny in which he was dominated.

So someone who feels this fight does 1 mill explain to me without this fight having cross over casual and racial success how it does 1mill or over.

I think it will appeal to the casual just as much the hardcore fans, because they know this would be something special. A few years ago cotto/cheato 2 pulled in 600k and that fight was built around the revenge and possible use of plater..canelo is definately more popular then margarito and more beloved by the fans, just as much women tune into his fights as do men...he has that sex appeal...sort of how it was for oscar who was doing 900k against the mayorgas of the world......besides that canelo would have the oppurtunity to become MW champion, and a possible fight down the road with GGG.

its a different economical time now days and the ppvs have sky rocketed in price, but with both fighters popularity and the likliness that this fight will be something special, it will definately be possible to be close or break 1mill.... it packs the "it" factor!

[Outworn]

750k.

They better stack the cards.

Salido vs. Varejo
Gonzalez vs. Estrada
Berto vs. a white cop(joking)
Berto vs. Ortiz 2

[Evol]

anywhere from 750-900k.

[Daylyt]

more the Mayweather vs anybody not named Pacquaio

[tredh]

You not "seeing" it means you are choosing not to or just dumb, I hate to say it. When you put 2 draws together it always does more than what they each did on their own and by more than double. According to you Manny wouldn't be able to draw **** with Floyd because he's last fights have doen 300k, 800k and 300k. In fact that should be example enough that the numbers nearly triple... Cotto with Margarito 600k, with Floyd nearly triple at 1.5 million. Floyd with Maidana did 800k, Floyd got 2.2 million with Canelo who is a draw and got nearly triple the buys. I can go look at more examples but I'm not because you have to be just ignoring numbers to think these guys won't draw.

When Cotto and Canelo fight they each get fans to buy their fights. When they face each other both fans buy the fight and then non fans of the fighters will buy because it's a good scrap and they are fans of boxing. That's why the buys triple for people with draws because they get each of their fanbase buying and both of their names on the marquee draws out people who like good fights and big names not just name.

What I am saying like I said before is that this fight doesn't have that much potential to pull in casual fans or cross racial lines to where blacks, whites, asians, etc. feel the need to buy this ppv. Which is the real reason PPV buys reach high numbers not because of hardcore fans or the fan bases of each fighter.

I feel most casual fans feel like Cotto and Canelo lost to both Floyd and Manny. They know Floyd dominated Canelo and Cotto got dominated by Manny. So that leads casual fans to know that neither of them is the man to beat Floyd or Manny. Which also leads them to feel why should I PAY to watch this fight?

Cotto and Canelo have shown they are draws with cross over known to mainstream fighters (Floyd & Manny). Neither of them have shown that they are cross over known to mainstream fighters themselves (Cotto & Canelo).

So either you're the "dumb" one which I will not say cause I don't know you.

But I will say these 2 things: We can agree to disagree and I may be taking a pessimistic view and you an optimistic view.


I am willing to bet some points on this fight NOT doing 1mill in buys?

[tredh]

I think it will appeal to the casual just as much the hardcore fans, because they know this would be something special. A few years ago cotto/cheato 2 pulled in 600k and that fight was built around the revenge and possible use of plater..canelo is definately more popular then margarito and more beloved by the fans, just as much women tune into his fights as do men...he has that sex appeal...sort of how it was for oscar who was doing 900k against the mayorgas of the world......besides that canelo would have the oppurtunity to become MW champion, and a possible fight down the road with GGG.

its a different economical time now days and the ppvs have sky rocketed in price, but with both fighters popularity and the likliness that this fight will be something special, it will definately be possible to be close or break 1mill.... it packs the "it" factor!

The bold is where we disagree.

[KingTito]

800K to 1M. This will be a huge fight, and they're gonna hype the shet out of it.

[LouIE G]

The bold is where we disagree.

I'd be willing to double you up on points if it did less then what i predicted...900k-1mill,.