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Originally posted by jjsmyth87 View PostIts obvious Bob Arum is using the cinco de Mayo weekend as a bargaining chip because Floyd thinks that he controls everything just because he is the A side. Being the A side against someone who is basically your equal doesn't hold as much weight as say Pacquiao-Algieri or Mayweather-Maidana or even Maweather-Canelo. Cotto is considered A side against Canelo do you think that he should get 90% of the money and in addition Canelo should bow to every other single demand? Obviously not because Cotto only has a little more bargaining power, so it will be close to 50/50 as should Pac Mayweather. The fact of the matter is who can Mayweather fight to be able to keep cinco de Alvarez? Pacquiao is the only one and Mayweather knows this and Arum knows this. Arum is the one making the Cotto Canelo fight happen too. Mayweather needs to be brought down to earth and realize he needs the fight just as much if not more than Pacquiao needs it. For legacy, and also to keep his May date which is more of an inflated ego thing really. Pacquiao can move down to 140 and have a mega fight with Crawford in the spring while Mikey Garcia has a couple fights to work up to 140 and then Pac can have another mega fight with him in the fall. Not only would he gain his ppv crown back, he would probably also gain his number 1 p4p back. Mayweather is retiring and Pacquiao should keep fighting, and that means he will definitely be dominating the ppv market for however long he wants to fight as long as he keeps doing good. Mayweather needs Pacquiao more that's the bottom line, he only has 2 fights left and he doesn't have a many big wins on his resume as Pacquiao does. Pacquiao is the only solution #fightPacquiaoyoucowardPackie aint dominating no PPV market with his whoping 200k PPV buys. Packie is lucky to get 30/70. Packie isn't fighting no Crowford's or Garcia's. Packie getting Vargas next. #stophiddingbehindArum
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The messed up thing about it is Mayweather doesn't seem to care how bad it looks for boxing and how much people are getting turned off because of this stuff. It's bad enough you have robberies by the judges in front of the whole world (Mayweather Castillo 1 and Bradley Pacquiao 1) But now you clearly have Al Haymon who controls about half of the elite fighters in boxing and he plays games with their careers and gives the fans B.s. fights. He had quillen vacate his belt because roc nation won a purse bid, he bid Stevenson out of the kovalev and Bernard Hopkins fights, only to have kovalev unify 3 belts, now pascal and kovalev are fighting while Stevenson is fighting Stephen hawking. Then you have Keith Thurman who is has some good skills and great potential, and he is having him fight bum after bum after bum. Thurman obviously wants the big fights, but he can't get them becaue haymon wont have his good fighters face each other, and he wont have them face top rank. Look at Danny Garcia and Rod Salka, what a disgrace. Then he pays his mandatory viktor postol to step aside, Postol would **** Danny Garcia. Imagine the great fights if there was no Al haymon. Imagine Keith Thurman vs. Pacquiao or Bradley. Or how about Terance Crawford against Danny Garcia or Lucas Mathysse. Obviosly top rank isn't going anywhere and neither is haymon so haymon needs to give the fans what they want, otherwise we as fans need to band together and just boycott al haymon b.s. fights. In the words of Bob Arum enough is enough
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Originally posted by WESS View PostEveryone knows Mayweather fights on Cinco de Mayo weekend, yet Bob wants to make that an issue now? Then again Bob used the date excuse when Floyd got his date pushed back to suit Bob's date.
Well, nothing new here besides the year. Many people in the boxing community have said for years that Bob is the problem. Cotto figured it out when he knew Bob wasn't going to allow him to fight Mayweather.
Same **** different year!
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Originally posted by littlemac View PostTalk about being delusionalPackie aint dominating no PPV market with his whoping 200k PPV buys. Packie is lucky to get 30/70. Packie isn't fighting no Crowford's or Garcia's. Packie getting Vargas next. #stophiddingbehindArum
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Originally posted by jjsmyth87 View PostActually it did 400k ppv's which was expected by everyone except maybe arum lol look who he faced and it was In china. The tim Bradley fight did 800k So basically he averaged 600k ppv's in 2014. Who else besides Mayweather brings numbers like that? Nobody. Also I Hope your wrong about Pacquiao getting Vargas, that would be a waste of a fight for sure, I would hope they learned their lesson after Chris Algieri. Then again maybe they don't care if they only do 400k ppv's because of the big site fee from macau, who really knows, alls I know is I think Pacquiao will fight Crawford sometime next year and also mikey Garcia has been told he will get a fight with pacquiao if he moves up. By the way I've already explained this in other posts but Mayweather would be lucky if he got 60/40, due to the fact he doesn't make that much more revenue than Pacquiao does. 55/45 would be fair when you take into consideration the per fight ppv numbers of all 13 of mayweathers ppv fights, and pacquiaos last 13 ppv fights. Mayweather only averages 20 percent more revenue so that would be right around 54/46 split
and that is exactly what mayweather deserves. 60/40 is a slap in the face to
all the accomplishments of the fighter of the decade/ boxings only 8 division
world champ/ boxings only 4 division lineal champ/ boxings 2nd highest
grossing ppv star ever.
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Floyd will never fight anybody he can't beat. That leaves out Thurman, Kell Brooke, Erislandy Lara, Guillermo Rigondeux (can't discriminate lil guys), proly Danny Garcia and of course...., PAC MAN!!!!.. The one and ONLY!
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