Freddie Roach as a pro

**Beercules** · 12-14-2014, 07:56 PM

He wasn't very good.

Still beats this Floyd doe.

**LouIE G** · 12-14-2014, 07:59 PM

Sadly with roach, he was where the term "punching bag" originated from.... he was a fun fighter, who made for fun fights, but he just wasn't a talented fighter... truth is that he is a better trainer, then he was a pro boxer..

**mathed** · 12-14-2014, 08:01 PM

I think Roach just had two bad sides, he is the living version of the adage: "Those who can't do teach"

**gauze** · 12-14-2014, 08:05 PM

he was a feather-fisted journeyman

**JJRod** · 12-14-2014, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by drenlou

Sadly with roach, he was where the term "punching bag" originated from.... he was a fun fighter, who made for fun fights, but he just wasn't a talented fighter... truth is that he is a better trainer, then he was a pro boxer..

This is true of a lot of trainers/coaches.

Phil Jackson
Jim Harbaugh
Joe Torre.

**UpInThisYo** · 12-14-2014, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by gauze

he was a feather-fisted journeyman

I'm sad to hear so. I thought he would have been a good pro, since he's such a good trainer.

**ShoulderRoll** · 12-14-2014, 08:26 PM

Many of the great trainers were not great boxers themselves. Angelo Dundee never even fought.

**F!x** · 12-14-2014, 08:44 PM

His record was won 40 (KO 15) + lost 13 (KO 3) + drawn 0 = 53 fights total

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...3014&cat=boxer

**BKM-2010** · 12-14-2014, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by drenlou

Sadly with roach, he was where the term "punching bag" originated from.... he was a fun fighter, who made for fun fights, but he just wasn't a talented fighter... truth is that he is a better trainer, then he was a pro boxer..

He would have had to be a HOF-tier fighter is he was to be a better pro fighter than he is a trainer though.

Freddie Roach as a pro