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  • #21
    Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Post
    non-british origin?

    who on that list wasnt born here?

    ok i listed some irish fighters, so maybe i should have said UK

    also what the **** are u talking about,

    we are a small country and we produce good boxers, we punch way above our weight
    Just looking at the size of a country on its own is misleading

    It's obvious a large % of the "British" talent pool come from immigrant families and are only "British" on some legal document. Were you under the impression nobody noticed this clever trick? lol

    Same way the US has all these American boxers parents' are from Mexico, without them the US boxing talent pool would take a huge dive

    I have a British passport but my ancestry is middle eastern and I currently live in the US... I'd hope if I ever walk on the moon or something they don't make me plant the Union Jack
    Last edited by ////; 12-13-2014, 02:27 PM.

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    • #22
      If you go far enough back, we're all from Africa.

      I think if you're born in a country and brought up in it's culture, adopt it's values - you may as well identify with that country.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by D-MiZe View Post
        If you go far enough back, we're all from Africa.

        I think if you're born in a country and brought up in it's culture, adopt it's values - you may as well identify with that country.
        That's not what I'm talking about, Khan may consider himself 100% British.

        I was specifically addressing how "'it's a small country" is misleading when that small country draws a lot of its sports talent from immigration. The UK probably has one of the larger boxing populations in the world.

        A genuinely small talent pool would be Puerto Rico (pop: 4 million, more emigrants than immigrants). They don't have a conveyor belt of "adopted" boxers like the UK.
        Last edited by ////; 12-13-2014, 02:39 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by 80sFighter View Post
          I was specifically addressing how "'it's a small country" is misleading when that small country draws a lot of its sports talent from immigration.
          Not really.

          60 million immigrants is still 60 million immigrants compared to other countries. Not to mention the popularity of the sport over here.

          UK gets compared to USA and Mexico and for our size and interest, we more than hold our own.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Post
            abroad

            when hatton retired khan took his place

            no disrespect to froch

            hopefully fury is next
            Abroad? Where exactly?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by 80sFighter View Post
              It's hard to use the size of the country as an excuse when half of your top fighters are obviously of recent non-British origin anyway.

              And I would say it's "mainstream" by most standards -- you have a dedicated boxing channel and Froch-Groves filled 80,000 seats?

              However Khan is not the best British fighter so it's all moot. He is OK, receives disproportionate attention for his superficial speed, training with Manny/Roach, and being in the diva division.
              Non-Britsh? The US is a country of immigrants. What's your point?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by 80sFighter View Post
                A genuinely small talent pool would be Puerto Rico (pop: 4 million, more emigrants than immigrants). They don't have a conveyor belt of "adopted" boxers like the UK.
                The problem is surnames.

                You have someone called 'Khan' and you know that isn't a British surname, it's Middle Eastern. So it's easier to identify their heritage. Go look at a list of British surnames and every famous athlete will now be ours.

                LeBron James is an adopted Englishman.
                Tiger Woods is an adopted Englishman.
                Kobe Bryant is an adopted Englishman.
                Floyd Mayweather is an adopted Englishman.


                I mean, I could keep going... but it's clear we run shit.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by 80sFighter View Post
                  Just looking at the size of a country on its own is misleading

                  It's obvious a large % of the "British" talent pool come from immigrant families and are only "British" on some legal document. Were you under the impression nobody noticed this clever trick? lol

                  Same way the US has all these American boxers parents' are from Mexico, without them the US boxing talent pool would take a huge dive

                  I have a British passport but my ancestry is middle eastern and I currently live in the US... I'd hope if I ever walk on the moon or something they don't make me plant the Union Jack

                  If Khan was born in Pakistan he wouldnt be a boxer..So ur argument is ******

                  Khan was born in Britain and picked up boxing here, he's a product of British boxing

                  Froch is part Polish, so i guess that means we dont have any true BRITISH fighters by ur logic

                  Brook, oh his mums from Jamaica, cross him off as well

                  Haye cross him off as well

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                  • #29
                    froch>>>>>>khan

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
                      Agreed!!!!!

                      Anyone else is just a pretender.

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