Manny Pacquiao vs Julio Cesar Chavez @ 135

[JoartCC]

Dumbass poll.

135 was the natural weight for Chavez and Manny has never fought at it, so what's the point?

The only mythical matchup that would come close to make any sense would be at 130. And Manny wouldn't have a snowball chance in hell of winning.

Morancito is at it again. Clowning his ways again. lol!

PAC and Chavez at 130 is a dead CHavez. That guy is nothing more but a Gatti-like fighter. His first 50 or so wins are against Cabbie drivers and janitors. lol!

Just look at the competition of PAC and you will be eating your words again. Like you always do Morancito.

[SuckaPunch]

Morancito is at it again. Clowning his ways again. lol!

PAC and Chavez at 130 is a dead CHavez. That guy is nothing more but a Gatti-like fighter. His first 50 or so wins are against Cabbie drivers and janitors. lol!

Just look at the competition of PAC and you will be eating your words again. Like you always do Morancito.

Are you ****ing kidding me?

[JoartCC]

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Well... he did have his first 50 wins against cabbie drivers did he?

I will reiterate again. He lost to elites and that's what matters. The measurement of greatness is not the theoretical record you have but the outcome of your fights against elites.

I could care less if Chavez has 100000000000000 wins against noobs but failed miserably against top fighters.

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That guy is nothing more but a Gatti-like fighter. .

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[JoartCC]

Dude....

Do us all a favor, and stop posting. You're really bad at it.

Dude, do us all a favor. If you have a problem with my posts, shut your mouth up.

[Run]

shut your mouth up.

Actually my mouth was closed the entire time it took me to point out a simple fact by typing.

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[morancito]

i could only agree to the first half of your post. but at 130? that's where pac is right now and other p4p greats like mab and em. to say that he wouldn't have a snowball chance in hell of winning is a bit exaggerated, it's like saying the same for mab/em.

Chavez was a bit better than Mab, and much better than EM. But more importantly, Pac has the style that would get him directly to the hospital after a fight vs. Chavez, who had two basic characteristics that would come in quite handy vs Pac: his chin and his body work. Pac would never hurt Chavez and would take a hellacious body beating, a la Rosario.

There was one style, and one style only, that was good enough to get you a win against a prime Chavez. And it took one of the best boxers ever at that style to expose it.

There's absolutely no way Pac beats Chavez at 130. Positive.

[morancito]

PAC and Chavez at 130 is a dead CHavez. That guy is nothing more but a Gatti-like fighter. His first 50 or so wins are against Cabbie drivers and janitors.

You know, that's basically true.

Still, Chavez DID BEAT all those janitors and cab drivers, didn't he? Pac, on the other hand, lost to two of them, Torrecampo and Singsurat.

Yikes.

[JoartCC]

Actually my mouth was closed the entire time it took me to point out a simple fact by typing.

You suck.

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[JoartCC]

You know, that's basically true.

Still, Chavez DID BEAT all those janitors and cab drivers, didn't he? Pac, on the other hand, lost to two of them, Torrecampo and Singsurat.

Yikes.

Well, if we follow your logic.

Then what about his terrible beating at the hands of Hoya? lol!

PAC is eating p4p greats for breakfast while Chavez fell short against elites.

Isn't that a sad realization indeed.

But enough said... I do recognize CHavez as a HOF shoo-in, no arguments about that. But to make him greater than his accomplishments is for me, illogical.