PPV Question..

[Johnny Rubber]

Why do so many posters seem to hold "PPV Numbers" as part of a fighters skill set? I have seen pages of arguments between posters, without even a mention of the respective fight that the views relate to!!!

Could someone explain why? This is a genuine question, because we make nothing as fans, but people still use PPV as a reason for fights not to be made due to popularity, rather than contention.

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I think it's just a basic monkey-see-monkey-do thing. At some point someone mentioned higher PPV numbers just to explain why fighter A was likely to pick fighter B, it turned into an argument, and now you have obvious closet ****s who post infographics about how much "their boy" (who doesn't know they exist) makes.

[creekrat77]

Why do so many posters seem to hold "PPV Numbers" as part of a fighters skill set? I have seen pages of arguments between posters, without even a mention of the respective fight that the views relate to!!!

Could someone explain why? This is a genuine question, because we make nothing as fans, but people still use PPV as a reason for fights not to be made due to popularity, rather than contention.

because we like to see boxer's wager their huge fan bases against each other like ********. It's the same reason why you wouldn't want to see the best poker player, who is an unknown, wager little money against the other great poker player, very famous, who has everything to lose. I say **** ppv, I know and everyone know's what fights would be the best to make

[The Big Dunn]

Why do so many posters seem to hold "PPV Numbers" as part of a fighters skill set? I have seen pages of arguments between posters, without even a mention of the respective fight that the views relate to!!!

Could someone explain why? This is a genuine question, because we make nothing as fans, but people still use PPV as a reason for fights not to be made due to popularity, rather than contention.

ALlow me to answer.

Historically on NSB, PPV sales were used as a barometer of which fighter was the bigger star-Manny or Floyd. As the debate became more and more heated, bloggers started checking the real statistics since each side was posting a lot of made up BS.

Once it was determined through the actual numbers that Floyd sold more, PPV sales were no longer a topic that boxing fans could discuss. Since Manny was #2, the mantra of Manny fans and Floyd detractors became "PPV sales don't matter" and "real fans do not discuss ppv sales".

Whenever a Floyd or Manny fight occurs now, some of the diehard fans and/or trolls on each side create threads asking for the PPV numbers to be released so they can post a string of negative comments and celebrate the ppv flopping.

If said PPV does perform well, you will see plenty of posts from the other side about the number being fake. If the ppv flops, you will see rejoicing from the other side.

Its petty, yes. It has no bearing on a fighter's skillset or his accomplishments. But for a very long time here on NSB ppv sales were a hot discussion topic and central in the never ending war between Floyd and Pac fans.

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^ One of the worst offenders

Break out the pie charts

[Larry the boss]

Because it was a huge deal when Manny was selling high ppv's..once his dropped all the sudden it was no big deal..and then you have Canelo wanting the May and Sept dates and now it is a huge deal...But a low ppv by Floyd is anything under a million..So in all honesty it all revolves around Floyd...700k is a fail for him but ppv's do not matter for anyone else..but he has himself to blame as he calls himself "money" and claims to be the "cash cow"...but it is funny to watch posters flip flop

[Pigeons]

Same reason Floyd's IRS problems elicit 100 page threads while Manny's IRS problems are ignored.

[Johnny Rubber]

ALlow me to answer.

Historically on NSB, PPV sales were used as a barometer of which fighter was the bigger star-Manny or Floyd. As the debate became more and more heated, bloggers started checking the real statistics since each side was posting a lot of made up BS.

Once it was determined through the actual numbers that Floyd sold more, PPV sales were no longer a topic that boxing fans could discuss. Since Manny was #2, the mantra of Manny fans and Floyd detractors became "PPV sales don't matter" and "real fans do not discuss ppv sales".

Whenever a Floyd or Manny fight occurs now, some of the diehard fans and/or trolls on each side create threads asking for the PPV numbers to be released so they can post a string of negative comments and celebrate the ppv flopping.

If said PPV does perform well, you will see plenty of posts from the other side about the number being fake. If the ppv flops, you will see rejoicing from the other side.

Its petty, yes. It has no bearing on a fighter's skillset or his accomplishments. But for a very long time here on NSB ppv sales were a hot discussion topic and central in the never ending war between Floyd and Pac fans.

OK BD, thanks for the up. So basically it started as an interesting topic, but morphed into a p***ing contest

[Johnny Rubber]

Thanks for all the feedback guys, some great opinions here.

[The Big Dunn]

OK BD, thanks for the up. So basically it started as an interesting topic, but morphed into a p***ing contest

Yes it has. And Larry's post is spot on. As the discussion regarding who will get the May and Sept dates has been a hot topic, one of the points Floyd fans make as a reason Floyd will get dates is his PPv sales reltive to Cotto/Canelo and how many their fight might sell.

Inevitably, a poster will come along and just go with "ppv sales don"t matter" etc etc because they really don't want to hear anything positive about Floyd and also want him off the biggest dates in the year, ironically because they want to see if he would sell the same number of PPV's if he didn't fight on a Mexican holiday weekend.

So yeah, as with everything good on NSB, sometimes all of us as posters, and I am as guilty as anyone, turn it into a weapon against the opposition and then it devolves into a pissing contest and a flame war.

I actually like discussing the business side of the sport. If other don't, cool with me.