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  • xrhythmxnxbluesx
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    #31
    if you ever seen marquez's old fights... he was faster than barrera and a better puncher than morales... barrera got his ass serve by pac... and so will morales... pac even said that morales is an easier opponent than marquez...

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    • oldgringo
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      #32
      Originally posted by xrhythmxnxbluesx
      if you ever seen marquez's old fights... he was faster than barrera and a better puncher than morales... barrera got his ass serve by pac... and so will morales... pac even said that morales is an easier opponent than marquez...
      Ah yes...we'll take Pac's word for it. Marquez has never had faster hands than Barerra...he doesn't know when and how to take the lead in a fight. Saying that Marquez is a better puncher than Morales is a joke...especially at lower weights. At 122, and 126, Morales threw harder punches that were more accurate...and he threw a variety of punches from range and inside. Marquez is too limited to be proclaimed better than MAB or EM.
      Last edited by oldgringo; 01-25-2005, 05:50 PM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by oldgringo
        Ah yes...we'll take Pac's word for it. Marquez has never had faster hands than Barerra...he doesn't know when and how to take the lead in a fight. Saying that Marquez is a better puncher than Morales is a joke...especially at lower weights. At 122, and 126, Morales threw harder punches that were more accurate...and he threw a variety of punches from range and inside. Marquez is too limited to be proclaimed better than MAB or EM.
        That's what I said in my earlier post, maybe much technically sound and effective style . . . but not neccesarily better.

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        • m00ks
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          #34
          Originally posted by oldgringo
          Ah yes...we'll take Pac's word for it. Marquez has never had faster hands than Barerra...he doesn't know when and how to take the lead in a fight. Saying that Marquez is a better puncher than Morales is a joke...especially at lower weights. At 122, and 126, Morales threw harder punches that were more accurate...and he threw a variety of punches from range and inside. Marquez is too limited to be proclaimed better than MAB or EM.
          I think he lost a lot of pop as he moved up. At 122 and 126 he was a monster with speed. He slowed down significantly at 130.

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          • oldgringo
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            #35
            Originally posted by m00ks
            I think he lost a lot of pop as he moved up. At 122 and 126 he was a monster with speed. He slowed down significantly at 130.
            He has slowed down some but he would do himself a huge favor if he came in at or very close to 130 when he fights Pac. He was too heavy for the Barerra fight. He was much quicker and on point in the Hernandez fight.

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            • m00ks
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              #36
              Originally posted by oldgringo
              He has slowed down some but he would do himself a huge favor if he came in at or very close to 130 when he fights Pac. He was too heavy for the Barerra fight. He was much quicker and on point in the Hernandez fight.
              For sure. You can't give Pac any more speed advantage that he already has. What did he weigh against Hernandez?

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              • oldgringo
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                #37
                Originally posted by m00ks
                For sure. You can't give Pac any more speed advantage that he already has. What did he weigh against Hernandez?
                I think he came in at 130 or close to that. You could just see the extra weight he was carrying for the MAB fight. He looked fat if that's even possible for him.

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                  #38
                  I dont think MAB will beat Pac if they fight again. MAB's right hand doesnt come naturally to him as he is a lefty and it so happens thats the punch pacquiao is more open to. If you look at Barrera vs Pacquiao fight you can see that the little times he was effective against pacquiao was with a straight right hand, when he got popped by pacquiao he was relying on his left.

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                  • adeelr
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                    #39
                    Marquez is alright..but he cant take barrera or Moralles. He will get knocked for sure if he fights pacqiao again...paqiao made some mistakes in the previous fight and he is the kind of fighter that learns from hsi mistakes he will clean the ring with marquez.

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                    • whdempsey
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Alibata
                      I was watching footage of Marquez againts Licona and other past fights he had and I have come to the conclusion that Marquez is one bad ass fighter. He is quicker than EM or MAB and It looks like he has more power. I was surprise at how really quick Marquez is when he counters with combos. The thing is, to make JMM exciting you need an agressive fighter like PAC that throws a bunch of punches. I think EM/Marquez would have made a good fight as well. But I think JMM would take Morales out handily. I hope they make the rematch with Pac after the EM fight. I wan't to see how the fighters would adapt in the rematch.
                      No. Well, yes and no. Yes, he is a badass fighter. No, he is not better than Barerra or Morales. When you say that you think Marquez would take out Erik Morales, I wonder what it is that makes you believe that. Because it's certainly not the success he had against every fighter not named Marco Antonio Barerra. And remember, the two times Barerra was successful against Morales (I & III as far as I'm concerned, regardless of the scorecards), he wasn't boxing. He was brawling. Don't doubt it, cuz I'm not wrong.

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