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  • #11
    Marquez is a tier below Barerra and Morales. He is the most patient and may be the best counter puncher...but both MAB and EM would hand him a beating if they fought.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by oldgringo
      Marquez is a tier below Barerra and Morales. He is the most patient and may be the best counter puncher...but both MAB and EM would hand him a beating if they fought.
      Marquez is just as one dimensional as Pacquiao.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by asian_sensation
        Marquez is just as one dimensional as Pacquiao.
        Until I see him turn on the heat against another fighter or take the lead for the majority of a fight I will agree with you about that.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Alibata
          I was watching footage of Marquez againts Licona and other past fights he had and I have come to the conclusion that Marquez is one bad ass fighter. He is quicker than EM or MAB and It looks like he has more power. I was surprise at how really quick Marquez is when he counters with combos. The thing is, to make JMM exciting you need an agressive fighter like PAC that throws a bunch of punches. I think EM/Marquez would have made a good fight as well. But I think JMM would take Morales out handily. I hope they make the rematch with Pac after the EM fight. I wan't to see how the fighters would adapt in the rematch.
          hes not better
          hes juts not as ring worn
          look for some old mab footage
          then ull see who was faster at droppen sudden combos
          plus mab is more aggresive in hitting combos there for less "boring"
          find some old tapes of EM then ull see who has more power

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          • #15
            You can never tell so long as JMM doesnt get to fight the other two.

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            • #16
              Marquez is a very good fighter. I think he beats Barrera but i dont know if he beats Morales.

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              • #17
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                JMM is not as versatile as MAB or EM which means that MaB and EM are better than JMM. It's just that JMM has the right style to frustrate Pac. JMM is one dimensional, he can only counterpunch, he can't lead.

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                • #18
                  I think it's more accurate if you say JMM is the MOST CAREFUL , not better, of the three. He likes to play it safe most of the time by just counter-punching, not taking the initiative or taking the fight to his opponent or mixing it up.

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                  • #19
                    Having watched most of Pac's old fights, I guess you can say I was surprised to see JMM give Pac a damn good fight. I was not expecting someone being able to catch Pac with combos the way I saw JMM did. At least not the Pac of the Freddie Roach Era. Honestly I don't know how valid Pac's excuses are but I replayed the JMM Pac fight and it seemed that those counters would have hit Pac without the injuries, because he was catching Pac wide open and of balance. This is a fight I need to see again. I love wondering what these guys are thinking while they are in battle. I don't think Erik will give MP as much trouble as JMM but I guess well have to see. The only thing that truly worries me about El Terrible is his size. I thought JMM was too big already because Mannys was being moved when JMM was hitting his guard. Manny is still quicker and more of a puncher though. It will be good.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Alibata
                      I was watching footage of Marquez againts Licona and other past fights he had and I have come to the conclusion that Marquez is one bad ass fighter. He is quicker than EM or MAB and It looks like he has more power. I was surprise at how really quick Marquez is when he counters with combos. The thing is, to make JMM exciting you need an agressive fighter like PAC that throws a bunch of punches. I think EM/Marquez would have made a good fight as well. But I think JMM would take Morales out handily. I hope they make the rematch with Pac after the EM fight. I wan't to see how the fighters would adapt in the rematch.

                      I believe you are right, JMM posses better power and speed than MAB. And being an AWESOME counter puncher makes him very effective against sluggers and move forward fighters. But he won't be able to reach MAB and EM in terms of stature. Why? Check the list of his opponents. How many elite fighters has he fought at this stage of his career. He was at the right time at the right place . . . getting two titles and belts from aging Champs. JMM is 30+ . . . . and given the chance that every fighter has been dreaming of he blew it. Any other fighter could have grab that chance to fight the p4p No 1 at his regular purse. How much is his purse for his title defenses? $400,000! How much is he being offered to challenge for the p4p title? A whooping $750,000 and yet he asked for $1.5M.

                      Basically this fighters came into the sports because they needs money . . . and money goes with stature. So why refuse the chance to earn millions? Pac was earning less as to what JMM is earning now before he fought and defeated MAB. How much is he being offered now? Minimum of $900,000. If that was not ******ITY then it must be a plain excuse, right?

                      As to that Pac/JMM tussle sooner or later it's bound to happen. JMM can't run forever. Undeniably JMM has shown that he has the style that can beat PAC . . . all he has to do is grow some balls to go for it.

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