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  • #71
    some of you guys should look into being boxing promoters, you guys are deep in it!!!!!!!!

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    • #72
      Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe View Post
      some of you guys should look into being boxing promoters, you guys are deep in it!!!!!!!!
      My dream job is the guy who ****s the two wood pieces together to let ref know only 10 sec of the round remains. Oh what a job

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      • #73
        I said it before.... the numbers DO NOT ADD UP!!!

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Fetta View Post
          My dream job is the guy who ****s the two wood pieces together to let ref know only 10 sec of the round remains. Oh what a job
          phuck that.. i wanna be the guards in suit that walks the fighters to the ring. not the real officer im talking about the guys in red/maroon suits.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by mrpain81 View Post
            Don't forget the gate 14.8 million.

            Plus international TV money and sponsors, which will be at least another $3-5 million.

            I don't see them losing money since Maidana only got $3 million and the under card might have been another $3 million at most.

            Now if were talking the Pacquiao 300k buys that would be around $10.5 million so the site fee would have to be astronomical since Pacquioa only has 3 fights in the US that have done over $10 million gate. I really doubt that Macao is paying that much but since people are pulling numbers out of thin air why not.
            I don't see Arum returning to Macau if it wasn't somehow financially beneficial for him to do so. I suspect that the sight fee they pay is enormous given the revenue that Macau brings in yearly compared to LV. Last year Macau brought in 7x more revenue than Vegas did and its being described as "Vegas on steroids". Just imagine how many come out for a wknd when Pac and Zou Shiming fight.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by mrpain81 View Post
              Don't forget the gate 14.8 million.

              Plus international TV money and sponsors, which will be at least another $3-5 million.

              I don't see them losing money since Maidana only got $3 million and the under card might have been another $3 million at most.

              Now if were talking the Pacquiao 300k buys that would be around $10.5 million so the site fee would have to be astronomical since Pacquioa only has 3 fights in the US that have done over $10 million gate. I really doubt that Macao is paying that much but since people are pulling numbers out of thin air why not.
              Don't forget the marketing costs...

              The gate was 14.8 million but the casino keeps part of that, at least half. Not to mention your assuming the Floyd fight did 1 million buys, he only got 900k in the rematch with Maidana and the first fight had worse numbers.

              Also, the amount of buys means nothing if you lose money. As for Manny's numbers... that's 300k buys in the US only. Not China and Manny is Asian, just like Floyd is American he'll be a much, MUCH bigger draw in Asia. Not only do that have a bigger economy than the US they have 3-4 times the population. Just a terrible argument, Manny made more than enough money fighting in China isn't it obvious they do it over there because they can't make money here without Floyd? Seriously, Manny's only fought over there twice since becoming a star, his stock is still sky high.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                My dream job is the guy who ****s the two wood pieces together to let ref know only 10 sec of the round remains. Oh what a job
                lmaooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

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                • #78
                  If Shotime felt the deal was a bust they have an opt.out clause they must be banking on floyd as always - TBE PPV KING

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Pago007 View Post
                    If Shotime felt the deal was a bust they have an opt.out clause they must be banking on floyd as always - TBE PPV KING
                    Why should they opt out when they can use the leverage of losing money to make him fight Manny or at least Cotto or anyone who will earn them money.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                      I don't see Arum returning to Macau if it wasn't somehow financially beneficial for him to do so. I suspect that the sight fee they pay is enormous given the revenue that Macau brings in yearly compared to LV. Last year Macau brought in 7x more revenue than Vegas did and its being described as "Vegas on steroids". Just imagine how many come out for a wknd when Pac and Zou Shiming fight.
                      Pacquiao vs. Bradley 2 did $7.8 million in Vegas.

                      It wasn't a very strong gate so just imagine what type of numbers a fight against Algieri would have done in Vegas. Lets say Macau garanteed $8 million for his fight against Algieri, that wouldn't be bad. If the PPV was in Vegas I doubt they do a lot bigger numbers, how much could they possibly do? Another 100k but do a $5-6 million dollar gate? At least with them fighting in Macau they get to keep building the Chinese market with Zou Shiming and secure some good Chinese television money.

                      Everything is speculation anyways but it's nothing new.

                      In 1997 Showtime lost about $7 million with paying Holyfield $20m and Moore $7m with the PPV only selling 550,000 buys.

                      http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...ticle-1.774020

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