Comments Thread For: Big fight Would Be Nice, But We’re Not Without Options

[TheFlashKnows]

Floyd vs. Cotto again? Because Cotto did better than expected? Pass! Cotto did better than we had expected but let's be straight here - Mayweather CLEARLY won. And I would not give him the full credit for beating the "middleweight champ" Cotto because Cotto is a small middleweight who beat an old gimpy Sergio Martinez. Sure that gave him the lineal title but that doesn't mean crap considering Martinez was shot at that point. I mean come on, Martinez lost to Martin Murray. The judges in Argentina gave him a gift.

The only real fight for Floyd now is GGG, Pacquiao, maybe even Garcia, but not if Garcia moves up to 147 for his first welter fight with Floyd. Garcia needs to do something at 147 before he's a serious contender. Khan hasn't done **** at 147 either. Come on Floyd, you hold the belt at 154.... take on GGG at 154.... prove you're the "TBE"

[jjsmyth87]

Cotto got trout and pacman problems doe yo.... Khan be gotten Garcia problems too yall..... Maidana be havin Dem khan problems fa sho son.... Oh wait..... The excuses only happen when hes scared to fight that person

[Larry the boss]

he's suggesting that floyd should fight for the middleweight title, but not at 160lbs. He's floyd, so he can do that.

hes licking his chops over another lineal catchweight belt over a blown up, weak champ.

alt alert!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HeroBando]

Even if that happened it a be better then facing the likes of Algieri at catchweights

Bbbbbut Floyd is too small and feeble to act like a champ in his 5th division. Thats what his biggest fans here say. Lucky for him theres a small, past prime champ one division up he can cherrypick another catchweight belt from.

[HeroBando]

Why didn't you just post this under your first comment under kafkod. No need to use an ALT

Lol hilarious coming from an obvious ALT

[twosweethooks]

Hello Lyle,

I hope you read this. I appreciate your candidness.

I have some thoughts of my own to share with you.

Pac has weaknesses. Pac's one weakness that has plagued him was his desire to charge the hill and damn the torpedoes. That got him in trouble with JMM on that one last shot before he was KO'd. He admitted to that himself.

Pac has faced many Prime elites of the day. He has faced many more than Jr. Jr fought Corrales when he was at the lowest of his life and that must be reconized, you just can't throw that out the window.

Pac the little lightweight destroyed Prime Hatton undefeated at 140, Jr brought him to WW and sc****d by, well you know the story.

Pac destroyed ODH where Jr in my opinon lost his ODH fight, but it was ODH that just about quit fighting in the last half of the fight, the target was there he just couldn't pull the trigger, it wasn't what Jr was doing, he was doing very very little.

Jr has a heart problem. Its not his physical heart its his Center mental condition. What Jr has done in the past ten years has convinced me he is not truly game. Gameness in fighters are quite the same under their perspective circumstances. Navy Seals proves their gameness before becoming a seal. They go to the trenches and are put under tremendous pressure to QUIT. If it were not for that, anyone could be a seal, but we know that would spell the end of our great military operations. Dogs are proved in the PIT. We know that fighting dogs are against the law and no good, nevertheless it has been done for centuries, the best against the best, without gameness no matter how good the other dog is, he will QUIT against and equal or lesser dog that is GAME, the game dog will come to the top.

We can't judge people by dogs except in the concept of gameness. For people fighters gameness to me is judged in taking on all comers, never ducking a fighter, and taken to the trenches but never quits, is not afraid of defeat, never stops believing he can win no matter how bad it gets, will search out the best and fight every round like he is winning.

Pac has proven himself GAME. JR has NOT.

Pac has searched out the best, he became the little giant killer, Prime Cotto, Prime Margo, Prime Hatton, Prime Bradley, Prime Clottey, all much bigger men.

I can't name ONE prime elite WW Jr has fought, can YOU ? If you can name one prime elite that was at the top of his game that was the elite of the elite of the day , please, tell me , I missed it.

If I were a tryout for a Navy Seal, they would take me to the point of death to see if I were really a Seal at heart, they wouldn't let me run a mile in 15 mins and say Passed !!!!

Anyone can build a record with great skills, but NOT fighting everyone and claiming to be TBE is a sham. Why ,,,,has Jr made all the demands, excuses vacations and retirements at the time he should have fought ? Why did TBE tremble when approached by Margo for a fight and refuse but fought Balto who took the title from a weak minded Judah ?? Why didn't JR challenge Cotto when Cotto was KING instead of retiring ? Why did Jr excoriate Pac accusing him of being on steriods attacking him day after day slamming Pacs ego and constituion of a man to denigrate him, and then make excuse after excuse pouring on Demands and ludicrous financial deals that embarrass and insult a great fighter ? Jr's actions for the past five years with Pac suggest loudly to me Jr has a heart problem. He likes the easy way out all the while making easy cash. IF he were game then WHY did he cheat on little JMM??? IF he was game then WHY did he cheap shot ORTIZ ?? IF Jr is game then WHY has he ducked ALL the Prime Elites of the day ? IF Jr is game then why does he bark like a dog bluffing ? IF he were game why didn't he take the Pac fight instead of Pac fighting Hatton, Cotto or Margo ? IF JR is game why hasn't he aborted silly business notions of Arum etc.......and come to a reasonable deal and get in the ring and annihilate Pac as you say ?

Jr showed fear on video when confronted with Mosley, showed fear in the first couple of rounds when facing Canelo, he was jerking and Sr was trying to calm him down but Canelo had the wrong game plan, and didn't have the heart to attack him like C level game Maidana.

Silly notions of TBE, no blueprint etc.......is in my opinon based on all I have said is ludicrous. Jr won't lose fighting b and c fighters but fighting PRIME Elites that have YET to be fought gives strong impressions of the lack of gameness.

The KO Pac endured has changed him in one way, he no longer charges headlong but is more a thinking man. That makes him more dangerous, as he still has his killer instinct , is still faster that anyone Jr has faced and is faster than JR today, he still has that power, still has tremendous foot work and is GAME to the Marrow of his bones.

IF they fight with no silly demands of gloves etc...... by Jr, you can count on counters from Jr, and you can count on the lazer left of Pac landing on the chin of JR and you can count on Pac systematically beating OLD jr down as the rounds go by until we get in the trenches when his old legs fail him and the shots are landing more and more and the big one comes that puts Jr on his back, and when he gets up and put down again, when his nose is bleeding and his face is swollen, when he is put in a place where his life as a fighter and his health is on LINE, then the WORLD will SEE the real JR, will he get up and face his foe with vengeance and take Pac down or will he QUIT like his uncle Roger in the Chavez 2 fight ?

We disagree.

Thats just fine, No problem with me, I just can't back up the demands and excuses of one who claims to be TBE. The only thing that will change my mind is a straight up fight, no demands no excuses from either side. This fight is not about who makes money ppv's etc......this fight is about the best against the best. Demands by Jr is ludicrous !!! Name the Prime WW Elite that he has fought and beat that gives him the RIGHT to make such demands?

IF Jr beats Pac like you say then only question I will have is WHY didn't he do that years ago ??? Please don't come back with the convoluted aggregations of ludicrous denial of demands Jr has made and refused by Pac. No body of sane mind will entertain that.

Hopefully the fight will be made straight up and we will see what we will see

Have a good day

[TheRichCoward]

This article was just terrible..wasted 3 minutes of my life

Lol.......

[iloveboxing2]

Lyle, you are an i di ot and a terrible analyst, who gives a f c k about your biased opinion. I hope Floyd is paying you..

[al-Xander]

IF Jr beats Pac like you say then only question I will have is WHY didn't he do that years ago ??? Please don't come back with the convoluted aggregations of ludicrous denial of demands Jr has made and refused by Pac. No body of sane mind will entertain that.

Hopefully the fight will be made straight up and we will see what we will see

Have a good day

That's why these articles that start with Mayweather beats Pacman are useless. They never explain why such winnable fight is so mind-bogglingly hard to make. The biggest money fight of this generation is being ducked by a guy who calls himself "Money" and "The Best Eva" Don't really know why these writers are destroying their reps aligning with the chicken. A chicken who retired at a young age to duck prime fighters.

[fladz]

Lyle Fitzsimmons gets paid for these articles?