Are Al Haymon advised fighters......

[El_Feroz82]

ok, so you should be mad at HBO then for putting those fights on more than Haymon for putting on decent fights for Berto. right?

Dude, those guys are all above Berto at the time. Pwill fought Sergio and winky @154. Margs fought shane, a guy Berto was supposed to fight before Haiti earthquake. cotto fought clottey and many then went to 154. Respectfully, this criticism of both Berto and Haymon is way off.

You have made good points throughout but maybe you have forgotten really where things were back then. Berto had some clunkers, but overall Al did ok by him, HBO and fans.

I would hope seeing exactly who he fought would help you see this.

Good debate. I used to have a Haymon avi so I am biased to a degree. He had a terrible year this year. if he messes up the NBC deal and doesn't give me what I expect in '15, I will be where you are.

Ok lets just call a cease fire, I get what you're saying and if these fights were on ESPN I wouldn't be that cranky....and yes I do blame HBO at the time for this crap too. IMO HBO is back closer to where it should be with it's boxing-it's not perfect, but I don't feel I'm wasting my money.

[bigjavi973]

Point is, like I already stated, Haymon can make these fights happen if he wanted to. You're just making it complicated by interpreting "interest" in the way it suits you. I'll make it simple for you. It means they want more monnneeeyy. You're naive to think that all these Haymon fights happened because these fighters did it because they're macho or something. Do you really think Alexander would just fight Khan without being properly compensated? Just use common sense, brah.

Canelo is the biggest money fight for One Time. So why is he not throwing the ginger kid's name out there? Are you saying Joselito got more balls than him?

I agree, haymon can make the fights happen if he wanted to. No, im not "making it complicated by interpreting "interest" in the way it "suits me". Thats just laughable. What is it exactly that im "interpreting to suit me"? LMAO all I did was state FACTS, while you state your OPINIONS.

Your last quote makes absolutely NO COMMON SENSE. He's floyd's mando, and there are ALOT of fights at welterweight right now that he can take. Also, when did lopez "call out" canelo? Dont forget he JUST moved up from lightwelterweight.

[Bullrider]

Also, when did lopez "call out" canelo? Dont forget he JUST moved up from lightwelterweight.

Joselito didn't call out Canelo. He beat Ortiz, the guy who was supposed to move up and fight Canelo. Fight was fought at welter. Lopez didn't have to move up and fight Alvarez, but he did. You can interpret it as having balls or he was satisfied with the money they offered him. Again, IT WAS MADE without so much fuss. Can you imagine Thurman doing that?

[bigjavi973]

Joselito didn't call out Canelo. He beat Ortiz, the guy who is supposed to moved up and fight Canelo. Fight was fought at welter. Lopez didn't have to move up and fight Alvarez, but he did. You can interpret it as having balls or he was satisfied with the money they offered him. Again, IT WAS MADE without so much fuss. Can you imagine Thurman doing that?

funny how ortiz is STILL fighting at welterweight. Yea I guess the money was good. Yes I can imagine that. When has thurman ducked someone? Can you name that fighter that he ducked?

[Bullrider]

funny how ortiz is STILL fighting at welterweight. Yea I guess the money was good. Yes I can imagine that. When has thurman ducked someone? Can you name that fighter that he ducked?

We're going in circles brah. You said Porter and Guerrero were not interested in Thurman, therefore they were not offered anything. Enter Alexander who expressed interest in Thurman long before the Khan offer, but was not offered anything either to fight Thurman. So...

Did I make myself clear now?

[bigjavi973]

We're going in circles brah. You said Porter and Guerrero were not interested in Thurman, therefore they were not offered anything. Enter Alexander who expressed interest in Thurman long before the Khan offer, but was not offered anything either to fight Thurman. So...

Did I make myself clear now?

Porter was asked about the fight, his dad said that they are NOT INTERESTED in fighting thurman. Thats duck number 1. Maidana had almost signed to fight thurman, he pulled out saying to GBP that hes not a tune up fighter and has too many ko's. Thats duck number 2. Guerrero was asked to fight thurman after his victory over kameda, and his response was "keith urban? Yea ill go to his concert". Thats duck number 3. Thurman called out paulie in his own hometown, and paulie's response was the basic, it makes no financial sense. Thats duck number 4. The only one that wanted to fight him was alexander, which thurman ALSO expressed interest in fighting him and even contacted al haymon's team for the fight to be made and they never got back to him after they told him that they would do so. Hopefully I broke it down good for you to understand my point of view. IMO they haven't fought each other cuz haymons for some reason doesn't want that fight to happen. I have my opnion on why is that if you wanna know.

[PK3434]

A manager/advisor is supposed to look out for the best interests of his fighters.

It is impossible to look out for the best interests of all of your fighters if you have 150+ of them.

[sicko]

They all trust in the man that helped build the biggest Draw in Boxing History in Floyd Mayweather and currently has the Highest Paid Athlete In The World as his #1 Client. The Man clearly knows WTF he is doing.

I think fighters are just waiting for him to put his plan in place and once that happens, not only will his fighters make their money but also I do think the fans will get BETTER MATCH UPS...HOPEFULLY! lol

Al haymon is the boxing illuminati.

LMFAO...BASICALLY!

[Beater_of_ass]

They all trust in the man that helped build the biggest Draw in Boxing History in Floyd Mayweather and currently has the Highest Paid Athlete In The World as his #1 Client. The Man clearly knows WTF he is doing.

I think fighters are just waiting for him to put his plan in place and once that happens, not only will his fighters make their money but also I do think the fans will get BETTER MATCH UPS...HOPEFULLY! lol



LMFAO...BASICALLY!

Wait what... Haymon didn't enter the picture until after Oscar I believe. Up until the Oscar fight Floyd was with Top Rank the entire time wasn't he? So it would be Top Rank who made Floyd not Al Haymon.

[Rath]

Sometimes they don't think man.

Algieri made 1.7 million against Pac, while Maidana made just 1.5 million

They don't even think men