Mayweather is better than Marquez, but will do much worst against Pacquaio.

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  • Evol
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    #71
    reading some of these comments from the floyd fans it seems like they dont even wanna see this fight since "it will be too easy for floyd" LOL. i mean u would think floyd is untouchable by reading some of these comments from the floyd fans. floyd's reach, speed, able to adjust, man if u was to read that u would think floyd is this super non human rebot LOL!!!

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    • SplitSecond
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      #72
      i dont think floyd's range will be much of a factor, not the key anyway

      cotto had little trouble adapting to floyds pull counter with his footspeed, pacquiao will be the same even though he's likely to eat a couple, i think pacquiao at some point will likely bait floyd into the pull counter or just counter a recovering mayweather, pacquiao's incredibly quick with the counter-combo

      plus you can sneak past floyds range with fients

      a thing to remember is that mayweather is safety first

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #73
        Originally posted by Evol
        cotto was able to hit floyd, floyd is not invincible. floyd has a slow work rate so i dont see manny getting hit more and more. if maidana was able to get to floyd because he throws wide shot, what do u think manny will do with all the weird angles?

        Do angles matter if a guy can not get to the spot they need to get to, or if he can touch that spot are they able to do something from that spot.


        And from those angles the punch is always on a linear path at the head, you think that will trouble a master boxer. Manny has become much more of a boxer over the years and he is very good, but being second best at something in a fight is not usually enough to win.

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        • Evol
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          #74
          Originally posted by SkillspayBills
          I agree with the premise that Floyd and Marquez are totally different counter punchers. It takes a certain type of mentality to counter punch the way Marquez does, he literally has torisk taking a shot that could damage him to land the punches he lands. Floyd is much more based on timing and setting traps to land his counters. I remember Maidana saying that Floyd literally did something different every single round. Floyd's ability to adjust will spell nightmares for Manny. Manny is very susceptible to right hand counters and right hand leads, Floyd's money punch. Floyd will have to dig deeper to land his shots because Manny's hand speed is fast enough to trouble him but once Floyd adjusts to taht speed it will be all she wrote.
          yeah only floyd can adjust and nobody else can... every fighter has that 1 guy that gives him hell and i truly believe for floyd its manny!

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          • The Gambler1981
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            #75
            Originally posted by SplitSecond
            i dont think floyd's range will be much of a factor, not the key anyway

            cotto had little trouble adapting to floyds pull counter with his footspeed, pacquiao will be the same even though he's likely to eat a couple, i think pacquiao at some point will likely bait floyd into the pull counter or just counter a recovering mayweather, pacquiao's incredibly quick with the counter-combo

            plus you can sneak past floyds range with fients

            a thing to remember is that mayweather is safety first
            Hit, tie-up rinse repeat.

            How does Manny respond?

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            • Deevel916
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              #76
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981
              Do angles matter if a guy can not get to the spot they need to get to, or if he can touch that spot are they able to do something from that spot.


              And from those angles the punch is always on a linear path at the head, you think that will trouble a master boxer. Manny has become much more of a boxer over the years and he is very good, but being second best at something in a fight is not usually enough to win.
              Maidana was able to land many wild overhand rights on Floyd. Trust me, Pac will land on Floyd as well.

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              • Evol
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                #77
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                Do angles matter if a guy can not get to the spot they need to get to, or if he can touch that spot are they able to do something from that spot.


                And from those angles the punch is always on a linear path at the head, you think that will trouble a master boxer. Manny has become much more of a boxer over the years and he is very good, but being second best at something in a fight is not usually enough to win.
                of course it does because angles is what will help him get there. how floyd deals with it will determine if manny is successful with his angles or not. u said angles wouldnt matter but then u just said maidana was able to hit floyd by throwing wide shots. so what good is throwing wide shots if u cant get to the target as u stated with angles here. im not saying manny is gonna run thru floyd, but u guys act like manny wont be able to give floyd any problems at all which is rediculous.

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                • Pago007
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                  #78
                  maidana and pac have 2 totally different styles, maidana is an ambush nonstop fighter - he punches bullies u around the ring
                  Pac is a mere boxer now he tries too think and is defensive now do to the ko

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Deevel916
                    Maidana was able to land many wild overhand rights on Floyd. Trust me, Pac will land on Floyd as well.
                    You know what to do when someone says, "trust me".

                    You don't~

                    It is a fight so punches will get landed by both men, but the ratio landed is going to be skewed to one man.

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                    • SplitSecond
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      Hit, tie-up rinse repeat.

                      How does Manny respond?
                      it's 3 minutes per round, floyd isn't winning by simply hitting and holding

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