Mayweather is better than Marquez, but will do much worst against Pacquaio.

[The Big Dunn]

so, oscar, bradley, & cotto don't have boxing skills?

stop the hate will ya..

& don't try to downplay algieri...he boxed manny pretty good imo, just didn't have enough experience....

& another tall guy who isn't a boxer, but definitely doesn't suck, and got beat pretty bad was margarito...pacquiao had to deal with a reach advantage nonetheless...

Dude, stop taking what I posted and trying to change the context. Algieiri has limited skill and had never fought any highly skilled professionals. To use that fight as a measure of how a Floyd fight may go makes little sense.

Tim, cotto and ODH are not boxers on the level of JMM or Floyd. Tim is closest of the group and yes, Manny easily beat him 2x IMO. Floyd has about a 3-4 in reach advantage over Tim. Margs is over rated by Manny fans simply because Manny beat him and Floyd didn't fight him. He doesn't have any where near the boxing skill as FLoyd or JMM do.

Dibella made points about this fight that contrasts with the TS analysis and made them a few years ago. That's why I posted it..

[Hype job]

[Evol]

Dude, stop taking what I posted and trying to change the context. Algieiri has limited skill and had never fought any highly skilled professionals. To use that fight as a measure of how a Floyd fight may go makes little sense.

Tim, cotto and ODH are not boxers on the level of JMM or Floyd. Tim is closest of the group and yes, Manny easily beat him 2x IMO. Floyd has about a 3-4 in reach advantage over Tim. Margs is over rated by Manny fans simply because Manny beat him and Floyd didn't fight him. He doesn't have any where near the boxing skill as FLoyd or JMM do.

The point is Dibella made points about this fight that contrasts with this analysis.

look at marquez's face after each fight. why do u act like marquez counter manny safely without being touched up himself? LOL

[The Gambler1981]

why do u guys act like floyd cant be hit?? did u guys miss the floyd vs maidana fight?? how was maidana able to hit floyd if floyd has a longer reach , etc.????

Maidana threw wide and did not hit Floyd clean much, he touched Floyd with the bottom of his gloves and the side of his glove a decent amount but those aren't clean scoring blows and he went way out of the way to land like that. Also he best work went to the body outside a couple shots.

Manny is a head hunter who comes straight, Maidana has a bit of trick in his game he gets 0 credit for it from most people but Manny while a more sound boxer is much more straight forward to deal with.

Manny will hit Floyd some because it is a fight and Manny is a great fighter so he will do better getting his than most especially until Floyd get's him down. The problem is what is going to happens to him, Manny is going to get hit a lot more and that is a losing scenario.

[The Big Dunn]

i sound ******ed but u're the one running with triangle theories.. manny beat all those guys but struggle with marquez is why i believe floyd will struggle with manny. floyd has more skills than marquez but floyd doesnt apply those skills like how marquez does when he's fighting manny! it has already been posted on here that marquez has so much success with manny is because marquez is willing to take some to gain some and its been proven on here that floyd is NOT willing to put himself thru that.

nobody is saying floyd will be a walk in the park for manny. pac fans is actually admitted that it wont be an easy job. unlike floyd fans who runs around all day saying manny is easy work for floyd. this is how u can tell which fan base is lying to themselves.

yeah even after 4 fights, marquez still leave with a busted up face! so much for marquez figuring manny out right? LOL. like i said, even after marquez has "figure" manny out as some floyd fans put it, just look at marquez face after each fight. if thats what u called figuring manny out then im willing to bet floyd is not willing to take that chance LOL.

Again, your responses are ******ed. JMM couldn't avoid being hit because of his stature and reach. That doesn't mean he took risks-it means he tried to win the only way he could. Dibella's point-Floyd can fight in a completely different way because of the reach and speed differences between he and JMM. He can fight like JMM did OR he can counter from a distance and avoid being hit. Marquez has success because he can take advantage of Manny's weaknesses.

As for what one or two Floyd fans (more likely Manny fans alts posing as Floyd fans) posts that I didn't-I can't respond to that.

As for the next paragraph of ******ation- a busted up face has no bearing on what Dibella said which is what I posted and was discussing with Deveel916. the point- since you are responding to me as a disgruntled, whining Manny fan trying to get back at me and not a poster analyzing the fight (which is what the thread is)-is that Floyd's ability to use his reach will likely negate the number of times he is hit, which should reduce damage.

[MRCHOKEaMF]

Floyd has proved, he can take a punch but you rarely get to land a good one. Every guy that they have as a common opponent says Floyd would win, a pac fan says resumes matter but floyd has fought more world champions than anyone in history, so a pac fan is not the one to give amateur analysis cause its just based on the fact someone is hope-ing something that pac's promoter doesnt think can happen, previous promoter, their common opponents vs a pac ball washer. Pac hasnt had a KO in a long time and his fans think he is back on PED's but he isnt and Floyd doesnt have to take punishment with his skill and use of reach to beat pac. Pac will more than likely end up knocked down a few times because floyd will time his jump ins and catch him while he's in those awkward positions and he will end up just like many other floyd opponents late in the fight, trying ****** **** and getting pot shotted for an easy decision. I will trust a professional boxer that has been in the ring with both as opposed to a non athletic fans opinion based on his dislike for floyd

[Hype job]

Again, your responses are ******ed. JMM couldn't avoid being hit because of his stature and reach. That doesn't mean he took risks-it means he tried to win the only way he could. Dibella's point-Floyd can fight in a completely different way because of the reach and speed differences between he and JMM. He can fight like JMM did OR he can counter from a distance and avoid being hit. Marquez has success because he can take advantage of Manny's weaknesses.

As for what one or two Floyd fans (more likely Manny fans alts posing as Floyd fans) posts that I didn't-I can't respond to that.

As for the next paragraph of ******ation- a busted up face has no bearing on what Dibella said which is what I posted and was discussing with Deveel916. the point- since you are responding to me as a disgruntled, whining Manny fan trying to get back at me and not a poster analyzing the fight (which is what the thread is)-is that Floyd's ability to use his reach will likely negate the number of times he is hit, which should reduce damage.

Blah blah blah we can speculate as to what would happen until the cows come home lets just hope they fight

[Evol]

Maidana threw wide and did not hit Floyd clean much, he touched Floyd with the bottom of his gloves and the side of his glove a decent amount but those aren't clean scoring blows and he went way out of the way to land like that. Also he best work went to the body outside a couple shots.

Manny is a head hunter who comes straight, Maidana has a bit of trick in his game he gets 0 credit for it from most people but Manny while a more sound boxer is much more straight forward to deal with.

Manny will hit Floyd some because it is a fight and Manny is a great fighter so he will do better getting his than most especially until Floyd get's him down. The problem is what is going to happens to him, Manny is going to get hit a lot more and that is a losing scenario.

cotto was able to hit floyd, floyd is not invincible. floyd has a slow work rate so i dont see manny getting hit more and more. if maidana was able to get to floyd because he throws wide shot, what do u think manny will do with all the weird angles?

[SkillspayBills]

I agree with the premise that Floyd and Marquez are totally different counter punchers. It takes a certain type of mentality to counter punch the way Marquez does, he literally has torisk taking a shot that could damage him to land the punches he lands. Floyd is much more based on timing and setting traps to land his counters. I remember Maidana saying that Floyd literally did something different every single round. Floyd's ability to adjust will spell nightmares for Manny. Manny is very susceptible to right hand counters and right hand leads, Floyd's money punch. Floyd will have to dig deeper to land his shots because Manny's hand speed is fast enough to trouble him but once Floyd adjusts to taht speed it will be all she wrote.

[Pago007]

First off Marquez used timing and feints subtle movements too get Pacquiao too commit and over-commit - Matquez would feint dip low or take a half step back and set traps for Pac - Marquez was the smartee boxer he used ring IQ. Jmm had too use lateral movement bc off the similar reach as pac,
Whereas, floyd has a longer reach and he relies on reflexes and distance range. Floyd iMO Would feint pac induce a lead take a half stepback and shoot the straight right or pull counter - maintain distance and once pac jumps in floyd will simply check hook then tie up pac - once cornered or trapped floyd will simply tie him up and move back too center
Pac will have success if he is patient and jabs all while coming forward and feinting - keep floyd ultra defensive until he ia able too get him on the ropes, but we all know pac isnt a pressure bully fighter, so i dont really see how he would have success - Maidana had a great plan he just didnt go too the body enough and he wasnt as accurate of a puncher as castillo