Comments Thread For: Fury: After I Beat Chisora: I Think Klitschko Avoids Me

[Y0@NN]

Good Bye Fury

[kafkod]

He has a three fight deal with HBO though doesn't he?
I can't imagine HBO wanting that one to happen in the UK as much as I'd love it to.

According to Wlad's manager Bernd Boente, it would be either in Germany or the UK.

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poor man's mariusz wach

[5burowz]

Fury is a loud mouthed, glass chinned can, but at least he's entertaining.

[LacedUp]

Klitschko will obviously not take any of his future foes likely but there is no doubt about it that when on paper looking at past Wlad opponents just prior to the fights at least 20 maybe 30 of them offered far more problems than the two young upstarts Fury and Jennings.

Nobody can keep a straight face and tell me these fights below were not far tougher opposition for klitschkko.

Povetkin
Byrd
Byrd 2
Pulev
Tompson
Thompson 2
Haye
Peter
Ibragimov
Sanders
Peter 2
Chagaev
Brewster
Shultz
McCline
Mercer


Realistically Fury might be at the level of Ray Austin at his absolute best. Could he surpass that level in the future? Maybe.

Yeah alright mr genius.

Then he'll have one of his famous 'voluntary' unification fights

Fury easily gives him more problems than 80% of those fighters.

Schultz

[Ravens Fan]

It would knock him spark out. But the short right hook/uppercut that Fury finished Cunningham with would have knocked Wlad spark out also.

I'm not saying Fury would KO Wlad, just that I think he would have a better chance of doing it than anybody else, including Wilder, who hits harder but would have virtually no chance of landing anything meaningful on Wlad before getting KO'd himself.

Fury outweighed Steve by how much? It was 44 pounds and Fury still had to prop his head with his forearm to knock him out. Something that Fury fans always seem to forget about. I personally would have been okay with Fury being disqualified for what he had done. And if Adamek could drop Cunningham three or four times he can't have that great of a chin. Even if he blows out Chisora I still truly believe that Wlad-Fury will be a complete mismatch.

[kafkod]

Fury outweighed Steve by how much? It was 44 pounds and Fury still had to prop his head with his forearm to knock him out. Something that Fury fans always seem to forget about. I personally would have been okay with Fury being disqualified for what he had done. And if Adamek could drop Cunningham three or four times he can't have that great of a chin. Even if he blows out Chisora I still truly believe that Wlad-Fury will be a complete mismatch.

As I've said before, if using your forearms on the inside gets you disqualified then Floyd, BHop, J. C. Chavez Sr, and Andre Ward would never have won a single fight.
Cunningham had been decked before, and he was decked again afterwards by Mansour, but the point is, Fury is the only one who put him not only down, but down and out.
Re the weight difference, if you weigh in over 200lbs you are a heavyweight. If you weigh in a lot over 200lbs, you are a BIG heavyweight, and that's an advantage to you, whoever you go up against.

[LacedUp]

Fury outweighed Steve by how much? It was 44 pounds and Fury still had to prop his head with his forearm to knock him out. Something that Fury fans always seem to forget about. I personally would have been okay with Fury being disqualified for what he had done. And if Adamek could drop Cunningham three or four times he can't have that great of a chin. Even if he blows out Chisora I still truly believe that Wlad-Fury will be a complete mismatch.

Jesus you're a fanboy.

How many times would you have been OK with Wlad being DQd then for the excessive fouling he commits multiple times every single time he fights? 5? 10?

Cunningham was out before the knockout took place. It's ridiculous to suggest that Fury should get DQd based on that, as it was completely evident that he tried to get him in the corner pushing cunningham away and accidentally held Steve's face up as the much shorter guy and hit him.

Plenty of times that has happened in heavyweight history or something similar. Look at Lewis-Grant for instance.

Wlad-Fury is the best heavyweight fight out there, other than Stiverne vs Wlad.

Maybe Wilder if he wins. I think people forget how Fury looked when he's been in great shape like vs Johnson and Rogan. Let's see how he looks against Chisora and I'm confident he'll change everyone's opinion.

One thing is for sure, and that's he'll be a better opponent than that unskilled oaf Poolev.

[Ravens Fan]

Jesus you're a fanboy.

How many times would you have been OK with Wlad being DQd then for the excessive fouling he commits multiple times every single time he fights? 5? 10?

Cunningham was out before the knockout took place. It's ridiculous to suggest that Fury should get DQd based on that, as it was completely evident that he tried to get him in the corner pushing cunningham away and accidentally held Steve's face up as the much shorter guy and hit him.

Plenty of times that has happened in heavyweight history or something similar. Look at Lewis-Grant for instance.

Wlad-Fury is the best heavyweight fight out there, other than Stiverne vs Wlad.

Maybe Wilder if he wins. I think people forget how Fury looked when he's been in great shape like vs Johnson and Rogan. Let's see how he looks against Chisora and I'm confident he'll change everyone's opinion.

One thing is for sure, and that's he'll be a better opponent than that unskilled oaf Poolev.

If not liking Fury makes me a fanboy then count me in. Because I honestly cannot stand the big fouled mouth goofball. I was also just trying to stir things up because Fury fans seem overly sensitive. But I honestly didn't know you would go as far as calling out Jesus over it.

I will also be honest with you because I really don't care about the Cunningham fight. I actually find it rather humorous that Fury fans hang so much on the fact that he beat a washed up CW that he outweighed by almost 50 pounds and was 12 years older then him. Newsflash Cunningham really wasn't even that great of a cruiserweight. Don't believe me? Look at his record.

And when Fury steps up and actually fights a legit elite heavyweight and Chisora in my opinion doesn't count. I will take pleasure in watching him fall flat on his face, literally. Because I don't believe that it is question of if it happens but only of when it will happen. And in the end if IU am wrong I will be the first one to come into the forum and say so.

I honestly believe that part of the problem with you Brits is that you confuse trash talking with actual accomplishments in the ring. That is why you won't catch me paying attention to anything Wilder says until he decides to fight someone that at least resembles a legit heavyweight.

As far as Wlad is concerned, I have never made excuses for his holding, I have also openly voiced my displeasure with his tactics on this forum several times. And if he got warned and disqualified for holding he would have no one to blame for it but himself.

[LacedUp]

If not liking Fury makes me a fanboy then count me in. Because I honestly cannot stand the big fouled mouth goofball. I was also just trying to stir things up because Fury fans seem overly sensitive. But I honestly didn't know you would go as far as calling out Jesus over it.

I will also be honest with you because I really don't care about the Cunningham fight. I actually find it rather humorous that Fury fans hang so much on the fact that he beat a washed up CW that he outweighed by almost 50 pounds and was 12 years older then him. Newsflash Cunningham really wasn't even that great of a cruiserweight. Don't believe me? Look at his record.

And when Fury steps up and actually fights a legit elite heavyweight and Chisora in my opinion doesn't count. I will take pleasure in watching him fall flat on his face, literally. Because I don't believe that it is question of if it happens but only of when it will happen. And in the end if IU am wrong I will be the first one to come into the forum and say so.

I honestly believe that part of the problem with you Brits is that you confuse trash talking with actual accomplishments in the ring. That is why you won't catch me paying attention to anything Wilder says until he decides to fight someone that at least resembles a legit heavyweight.

As far as Wlad is concerned, I have never made excuses for his holding, I have also openly voiced my displeasure with his tactics on this forum several times. And if he got warned and disqualified for holding he would have no one to blame for it but himself.

I just don't understand why you'd let your personal feelings towards a fighter let you be incredibly hypocritical? No need to do that, and Jesus as my witness with tell you hypocrisy is not looked favourably as is stated in the Bible.

I don't think he was a great LH, CW or HW, not disagreeing there. But it was a better win than Jean Marc Mormeck.

I haven't claimed you were "trash talking". Simply that you are very hypocritical and sensitive in your posts and not upholding the same standards for a guy you like vs a guy you don't like.

I've never seen you say anything remotely negative about Wlad. But would you agree that Wlad's 100+ holdings, pushings, clinching etc should have gotten him a DQ vs Povetkin?